Members Renato Posted May 23, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Cara... está tudo bizarro. O monstro de fumaça nunca saiu da Ilha, mas ele disse que era o pai do Jack... e o pai do Jack já apareceu para o Jack depois de morto fora da Ilha... ou não? O pai do Jack apareceu no cargueiro para o Michael, fora da Ilha, ou não? Sem contar que o pai do Jack apareceu para o Locke quando ele foi girar a roda: O Locke pergunta para ele: "você é o Jacob?" O pai do Jack responde: "Não, mas acho que respondo por ele" Porra... sem contar que logo que eles chegam na Ilha o pai do Jack (suposto homem de preto) guia o Jack até a gruta para eles terem água, ou seja, para eles NÃO morrerem de sede. E agora o homem de preto queria explodir todos no submarino. Por que não deixou eles morrerem de sede desde o ínício? E outra, o pai do Jack é o único que o monstro de fumaça usa a forma e fez o corpo sumir. O corpo do Locke está lá, o corpo do irmão do Eko está lá no avião... mas só o pai do Jack que o corpo some. Por que? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted May 23, 2010 Author Administrators Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Lost Season Finale..aos que sobreviveramm todos esses anos..quem acompanha desde o comecinho qdo comecou a passar na AXN a primeira temporada e depois torrents...enjoy..this is the end my friend.. Carta do tio Lucas enviou para os roteiristas de Lost após ver o final da série..peguei do blog Ligado em Série do Bruno Carvalho.. “Parabéns por criarem uma série incrível! Não contem a ninguém, mas quando Guerra nas Estrelas saiu, eu não tinha a menor ideia pra onde tudo caminharia. O truque era fingir que a coisa toda estava planejado desde o início. Joga-se lá uns problemas com figuras paternas, referências a outras histórias e pronto, tem-se uma série de filmes.” “Em seis temporadas vocês conseguiram expandir tempo e espaço e eu não estou sozinho quando digo que nunca consegui prever o que estava por vir em seguida. Agora que [LOST] chegou ao fim, é impressionante constatar como muito realmente estava planejado e o quão elegantemente amarraram tudo. Vocês criaram algo realmente especial. Estou triste que a série está terminando, mas ansioso pra ver o que vocês farão em seguida.” George Lucas E um videozinho entitulado..obsessão... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mBveRjf2hU Big One2010-05-23 16:40:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cebola Posted May 23, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 Começou ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Renato Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Hoje termina o sofrimento. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Não sei brincar de letrinha branca no Opera não, então *8*8*8*TEM SPOILERS AQUI8*8**8*, sem reclamar de falta de aviso. Acabou. Como esperava, apesar de bem corrido o episódio não se focou em responder nada mas sim em desenvolver a galera ali. Por incrível que pareça, foi o episódio que usou melhor o conceito por trás da realidade paralela, finalmente ganhando meu interesse ao invés de uma historinha chata sem ursos polares e fumaças vivas, se tornando (quase) tão importante quanto o que estava acontecendo na ilha. Apesar da falta de respostas, não me decepcionei com o final. Me senti traído, sim, mas é tipo encontrar sua namorada transando com outro cara e f*der ela também. Dá raiva, mas dá pra gozar (melhor analogia que encontrei, perdão!). Torci um pouco o nariz frente a natureza da realidade paralela, mas não foi difícil de engolir depois de aceitar os conceitos apresentados no 6x16 (o que acabou aumentando sua importância dentro da mitologia da série, né?). Além disso, algumas surpresas como o Hurley sendo guardião da ilha e o episódio terminar com Jack fechando os olhos (previsível, sim, mas nem pensei nisso :c) me agradaram bastante. Anyway, divertido o ep. Depois comento mais. Shico2010-05-24 02:42:11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Opinião de um twiteiro a qual compartilho: "Não acho que avançar uma trama sonegando infos seja revolucionário ou tenha em si qqer ineditismo. Acho preguiçoso e meio picareta. " Em tempo, diretamente da Lostpedia: Mistérios apresentados nas 6 temporadas - 127 Resolvidos de forma conclusiva - 60 Resolvidos parcialmente - 44 Não resolvidos - 23 Ou seja, resolvido só metade. Se fosse na minha escola, média 5 não passaria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cebola Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Por que vocês queriam tanto que eles respondam os mistérios? Caraca , aquela parada do Adão e eva não tinha nada haver e vocês faziam um ´´Ó`` para descobrir quem seriam aqueles personagens . Lost acabou de forma quase satisfatória pois eu ainda não sei qual o nome do irmão do Jacob e nem por que a ilha estava no fundo da água . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Eu caguei pra quem era Adão e Eva Nem fazia questão de saber daquilo. Pra mim eram só dois corpos que estavam na Ilha... alguém que já havia vivdo ali, grandes coisa. Normal. Nem era um mistério. Mostrar quem era foi apenas um "plus a mais", como diria a Luciana Gimenez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cysor Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Quer dizer que ainda ninguém sabe O QUE É a ilha??!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Pra mim a ilha é uma ilha desde a terceira temporada...e me caguei pra Adão e Eva também. Tem muita coisa mais importante, como PRA QUÊ DEMÔNIOS SERVIU A JUGHEAD ENTÃO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Moonsorrow Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Melhor não ficar repassando a estória porque a trama não sobrevive a uma revisão. Episódio bem decepcionante esse último. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Doutor Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Achei no IMDB: 1. What is the Island? A “cork” that holds back evil from the world. 2. What happens if evil escapes? The world ends. 3. How? Doesn’t matter. It ends. Evil wins. Can’t let that happen. 4. So what was going in with the island while the cork was out? It was being destroyed. The “Evil” was escapee and destroying the world. Starting first with what was closest to it; The Island. Possibly, had the cork not been put back the spread of destruction would have continued until the world was gone all together. So think of it was when the plane took off, they would never find a place to land because everything would be gone. 4. What is “The Light”/”The Source”? Its the source of good and evil. Essentialy it’s life and death incarnate. 5. What happens when you touch “The Source”? Depends on what kind of person you are. Evil from “The Source” incarnate MIB’s body because he was evil and took the form of the smoke monster. 6. Why didn’t Demond die touching the Source? He was immune to large amounts of electromagnetism due to his experience in the hatch. 7. Why didn’t Jack die touching the Source? He sacrificed himself to the Island. The island accepted him as sacrifice for good so he was able to survive the sources attempt to take over him. 8. Who is Jacob? Jacob is the Protector of “The Source”. He has many mysterious powers that are suppose to aid him in his duty. 9. What does that mean exactly? It means its his job is to make sure not only does the Source not escape into the world, but people can not find it either. If they do, they become infected with whatever side of the Source they are more relatable with. It they are good they wouldn’t be after the light to begin so it’s never reacted that way to someone. If they are bad, Evil from the source consumes them. 10. Who is the MIB? The Man In Black, is Jacob’s twin brother. 11. Why is he Evil? Jacob made him touch the Source and evil consumed him. 12. Why does he want to leave the island. His human form wanted to leave, when he was consumed and transformed into the smoke monster his memories are still a part of him. Now he is just a smoke monster but still with the urge to leave the island. 13. Why can’t he leave? Rules set in place by various protectors. These rules are the only constant within the Lost universe. They must be followed. 14. What happens if they aren’t followed? It doesn’t matter. They simply can’t be broken just like the laws of gravity. 15. Why did Flocke (Monster in locke form) want Desmond to open the cork? He thought that it would reset the rules and hed be allowed to leave. 16. Why did Jack want Desmond to open the cork? He thought that it would help him defeat the monster. 17. Who was right/wrong? They were both right and wrong. Flocke was right because it did reset the rules. But wrong because it made him vulnerable. Jack was right because it did help him defeat the monster. But wrong because the open cork was destroying the world. 18. How did the Monster become vulnerable? With the open cork, the Source was escaping. The Source within the MIB left his body to join the escaping source. Making him human again and in the form of whomever he was in that moment; Locke. 19. Why couldn’t the smoke monster fly off the Island? Two reasons; the rules and because he can’t fly over water. Much like hover boards. 20. Why can’t the monster kill candidates? The rules and because Jacob touched them. Leaving part of him inside them. And since the MIB can’t kill Jacob, he can’t kill Jacob’s Candidates. 21. What is a candidate? Jacob’s band of people who he has chosen to replace him. Any one of them can step in take the job. 22. With Jacob dead, why can’t the Smoke Monster leave. Part of Jacob is alive in the remaining candidates. 23. Who are the Others? Inhabitants on the Island. 24. Why do they Others hate the 815ers? Because they threaten their lifestyle. Simple as that. Same reason the Others massacred the Dharma Initiative? 25. Who are the Dharma Initiative? Researchers and Scientists who in the 70‘s studied the island’s different scientific properties. 26. Why does the island have these properties? Defects of the Source. 27. Who is Widmore? Widmore used to be the Leader of the Others. 28. Why does he want the Island so bad? He wants power, people want what they can’t have, and because he wants revenge on Ben for banishing him. 29. Who is Ben? Ben was a leader of the Others. He was once the son of a member of the Dharma Initiative but after turning evil, grew up and led the massacre against them. \ 30. Why is Ben evil? He was submerged into the water at the temple. The water saved his life, but made him mostly evil. 31. Why does the water at the temple make people Evil? Effect from the Source. 32. Who built _______? The foot statue, the temple, etc. Doesn’t matter. It’s not important to the story. 33. Who built the Stations? The Dharma initiative. Each station has a different reason for being. Some for study some for other reasons. 34. What is the Swan Hatch? A Dharma Initiative Station built in order to harness and hatch a electromagnet pocket beneath the ground of the island. 35. Why was Desmond in the Hatch? He was shipwrecked on the Island and rescued by a grandfathered Dharma Initiative member who taught him to push the button in the Hatch and then attempted to escape the Island without telling Desmond. Desmond killed him leaving him the sole person to push the botton. 36. What happens when the button isn’t pushed. Electromagnetic energy starts to escape. This also causes an EMP blast. 37. Why did light 815 crash? Desmond failed to push the button just as the plane flew over the island. The EMP caused the crash. 38. What is the donkey wheel? Its a turn table that is linked to the Source of the island. It activates random functions whenever turned. It’s only constant is that it teleports whomever turned it to a desert in Syberia (or wherever). 39. Why did ben turn the Wheel? He thought it would move the Island and help them escape temporarily Widmore and his freighter of bandits. 40. What did it really do? It caused the Island and its current (the people on the island during the wheel turn) to start jumping back and forth through time. This as fatal effect on people causing Charlotte to die. 41. If the Island was jumping through time, why did it dissappear? The island is always moving. Lets say the island was near australia when the wheel was turned. And it jumped to 1980 during its first cycle. And it 1980 the island was near africa. Instantly the island jumped back in time and location to wherever it is in 1980. 42. Why did Locke turn the Wheel? He thought it would take him off the island. 43. What did it do? It took him off the island but also stopped the time jumping and its fatal effect. Leaving the Losties in/wherever the island was after one final flash. 1976 circa. 44. Why did the Oceanic 6 have to return to the island? Ben didn’t know him turning the wheel fixed the time flashes. He thought he needed to bring everyone back in order to fix it. He told them they needed to come back. 45. Why did 5 of the Oceanic 6 come back to the Island? They each had different reason. Jack; thought he had to save the island. Kate; to find Claire. Sun; to find Jin. Hurley; felt guilty about lying and leaving everyone behind. Sayiid; was dragged back by Illana under orders from Jacob. 46. Why couldn’t they go back individually? Simple, the Island wouldn’t allow it. Everyoen needed to come back. Needed to come back together. Much like a security alarm code. The circumastances needed to be right. Hence why Hurley had a guitar and why Locke and Ben came back. 47. Why didn’t Aaron need to come back? Simple, it wasn’t his destiny. The Island simply didn’t need or want him. 48. What is the important of Walt and why is he special? He’s not. He was probably once a candidate but thats about it. Forget about him. 49. What happened when the bomb went off? Nothing. It released the pocket of Electromagnetic Force and the Dharma Initiative built the Hatch in oder to house it. There was no alternate time line created because that is what happened. The Losties where always part of the reason the hatch was built. Like the words in a book, things are the way the are and there is nothing that can be done to change the past or future. The only thing it did was expose them to the Electromagnetic Force and send them back to present time where they belong. 50. What are the side flashes? Purgatory. Everyone in the side flashes are either people stuck in between life and after life because they have not accepted their death or life OR are imaginary people made up by the people in purgatory that they interact with. This means Jack’s son, is a made up image created by the purgatory Jack and Juliette. 51. Why are things in the side flashes the way they are, (like jack having a son, Hurley being successful, and the island being sunk) ? Because the minds of the purgatory people made it that way. Essentially, the world they created with purgatory is their perfect world. 52. Why were people in the Church at the end and what happened to them? Everyone in the Church were the purgatory incarnations of those whose lives revolved around the Island or people on the Island. The island was the most important part of their lives and now that they are dead they had never had closure with with the Island. They had to come together to remember and cope with what happened on the Island in order to move on. They all moved on to the afterlife, whatever you think that means. 53. Why wasn’t Ben in the Church? He wasn’t Ready to move on. 54. Why wasn’t Ana Lucia in the Church? She wasn’t ready to move on maybe her life didn’t revolve around the island it wasn’t what she needed to cope with in purgatory. 55. Why wasn’t Walt in the Church? His life didn’t revolve around the Island. Maybe his purgatory is him accepting the death of his parents. Or maybe he never went to purgatory. 56. If Sawyer, Desmond, Hurley, etc are alive at the end of the show. Why are they in the side flashes? Because they died eventually. The side flashes aren’t happening at the same time as real life. Think of it as a GIGANTIC flash forward taking place after everyone involved has died. So far into the future that even Hurley and Ben are dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JaCk_Bill Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Terminou! E não focando em respostas, mas na conclusão da vida daquelas pessoas, isso é o que lost sempre fez melhor. Ótimo episódio final, que passou o desenvolver final na vida dos Losties e tb deu uma explicada na dita Realidade Paralela. Os Mistérios foram plantados ao longo de 6 anos, sim. WTF, pra responder td didaticamente teriam q criar uma série derivada só pra isso! Obs: Uma coisa q não entendi é como diabos o Ben saiu debaixo daquela arvore? JaCk_Bill2010-05-24 21:34:34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Quer dizer que fazer uma série plantando mistérios que não serão solucionados ao longo de seis temporadas é bom? Isso é o ápice da picaretagem. Já estou puto antes de ver o ep final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dark Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Essa de responder didaticamente já deu, também. Falam como se Lost não tivesse tido tempo de desenvolver mais coisas. Pura preguiça e falta de respeito que tornaram a série o que foi nessa última temporada, isso sim. Também sou totalmente contra diálogos forçados ou jogadas na cara (mais didático que o final do 616 só Telecurso 2000), mas com tantos episódios inúteis por aí, não há desculpa pra ter sobrado nada. Se fossem apenas "mistérios" sobre o final da série, tudo bem, é até legal deixar um pouco no ar pra que cada um seja livre de interpretar da maneira que quiser (ainda que surjam algumas pérolas), mas de resto acho muita picaretagem mesmo. E tem muita coisa que eu discordo nessas respostas aí, mas é o textinho que chega mais perto da minha interpretação de tudo. Só não entendo quem consegue achar pêlo em ovo nesse finale, por exemplo, afirmando que a ilha é um purgatório e os FS são o paraíso[?!]. Parece que só viram as imagens e não entenderam nada dos diálogos finais.Shico2010-05-24 22:23:14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakoserrano Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 SPOILERS Me emocionei pra caramba com os reencontros. Curiosamente o que mais me emocionou foi o Sayid com a Shannon (vai entender como funcionamos). Acho que o maior problema do finale foi ter reduzido a ilha a nada. Pensem, se todo o universo paralelo não tem conexão nenhuma de fato com a ilha, podemos o eliminar da equação. O eliminando, ficamos sem uma series finale. Só isso. Vivemos seis temporadas na ilha e os caras colocaram o desfecho de algo que tivemos apenas uma temporada, e ainda por cima um desfecho medonho. Quando focalizaram aquele Jesus pela segunda vez pensei "foderam com tudo". Uns morreram antes e outros depois e todos se encontraram aqui. Ahh, vai se foder, hehehe. Em resumo. Emocionalmente até funcionou, mesmo porque deram uma apelada (válida). Intelectualmente cagaram no pau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakoserrano Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 Essas "respostas" que o Wesker pensou reforçam todos os gaps da série. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakoserrano Posted May 24, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 24, 2010 SPOILERS Alguns furos (ou não) estranhos do episódio: 1) Porque diabos 1 segundo após o Flocke morrer, não só a tempestade acaba como já está um ceuzão azul sem nuvens. Até entendo a idéia, mas ficou parecendo Plano 9 do Espaço Sideral. 2) Como o jack saiu do rolha-place e apareceu nas pedras acima? Forçaram isso pra terminar com ele fechando os olhos (que achei legal mas bem queijo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Acabei de ver. Bosta fedida. Forçaram no melodrama até não poder mais. Seis anos pra isso. Não sei se entendi, mas os flashsideways era realmente o "paraíso". Mas toda a história da Ilha aconteceu. Por isso uns "morreram antes e outros depois". Os caras simplesmente apelaram para o emocional promovendo os encontros e as lembranças... tudo apenas para emocionar os fãs.Bacana, funcionou por esse lado, mas ficou completamente capenga por outro. Ficou a sensação de que apelaram ao melodrama e à memória emocional da série para fugir do monstro que eles mesmos criaram. Uma pena. Talvez a série tenha tido o final que mereceu, mas os fãs não tiveream o final que mereciam pelos longos seis anos de dedicação. Pelo menos minha namorada gostou de alguma coisa, ela disse: "pelo menos o Boone apareceu" Renato2010-05-25 03:29:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChosenOne Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 O final de LOST foi intenso, na falta de uma definicao melhor... Realmente eles devem ter percebido que o caminho era mostrar a evolucao dos personagens e sua redençao, depois que os misterios da ilha fugiram do controle dos criadores da serie. OK, eu aceito isso diante do emocionante final que deram à série. Gostei demais! let the mimimi begin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakoserrano Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Isso não é mimimi, é não ser idiota de aceitar qualquer merda que coloquem na nossa frente, depois de acompanhar por 6 anos. Tenho certeza que você era um dos idiotas (como todos) que tinha interesse na mitologia também. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members graci Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 em todos os fóruns de lost q tou entrando em sua maioria ninguém apreciou o fim, td bem, q eu sei q n vai ser respondida todas as minhas dúvidas, mas tou vendo q nem as básicas o foram, noossa.:: ja tou com medo de ver o final da temp. nem os fãs gostaram, e q dirá eu q so apenas gostei muit da série, sniff mas, como sou teimosa vou ver assim msm né? .::: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChosenOne Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 mimimi mimimi Pois é. Entao, como eu ia dizendo, fiquei bastante satisfeito com o final de LOST. O final vai gerar muita polemica ainda. Muita gente vai se sentir "traida" (ooookeeey ) por causa de um misteriozinho aqui ou ali q nao foi mastigado e explicado, mas isso vai de cada um. Quem, como eu, se interessava mais pelo desenvolvimento dos personagens e pela narrativa do q pela ilha em si, aproveitou mais a viagem. Anyway, minha serie favorita sempre foi Dexter mesmo.... ChosenOne2010-05-25 13:05:28 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kakoserrano Posted May 25, 2010 Members Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Ok, então você se satisfaz com pouco. Isso não me surpreende... Aliás, combina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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