Members Jack Ryan Posted June 17, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Eu naõ apostaria que Jonh Henry Irons fizesse parte do casting' date=' mas entrada do Crowe me deu animo para saber que vai dar vida ao Lex Luthor, deve ser um grande ator que a Warner tá escondendo na manga.[/quote'] Eu tenho virtual certeza de que o Irons não participará de MoS. Tava só fazendo piada mesmo. Mas seria legal se fossem sutilmente incluindo referências à morte do Super, hein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dook Posted June 17, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Não' date=' Plutão. Não me referi ao tamanho da torcida e sim ao tamanho do produto. A marca Superman é o topo e todos os outros heróis estão abaixo dele... todos sabem disso. [/quote'] Fãzóides são tão divertidos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Vilanesca Posted June 17, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 Joaquin Phoenix como Lex não. Espero que escolham outro. Bom,se fosse pra escolher,eu gostaria de ver o Jason Isaacs no papel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primo Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Eu naõ apostaria que Jonh Henry Irons fizesse parte do casting' date=' mas entrada do Crowe me deu animo para saber que vai dar vida ao Lex Luthor, deve ser um grande ator que a Warner tá escondendo na manga.[/quote'] Eu tenho virtual certeza de que o Irons não participará de MoS. Tava só fazendo piada mesmo. Mas seria legal se fossem sutilmente incluindo referências à morte do Super, hein. Assino embaixo, Ryan ! E digo mais: a preocupação em agradar aos fãs até mesmo nos detalhes - e ao mesmo tempo deixando a trama 100% apreciável ao público leigo - se mostra uma opção cada vez mais acertada pra não comprometer o burburinho positivo.Aparições surpresa, referências e personagens secundários pré-existentes na mitologia serão muito bem-vindos no novo filme do Superman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Giordanno Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Possible Budget for Man of Steel Revealed? As the upcoming Zack Snyder movie project is moving forward, rumors of the possible budget that is used for the movie have surfaced. Hit the jump to check it out! According to Peter Georgiou of Think McFly Think as he speaks via his Twitter account, and thanks to DCU Movie Page for pointing it out: Saw some publications pointing to Superman: Man Of Steel's budget being at 175 Million. Sounds like wishful thinking by the Brothers Warner Of course it's still something that hasn't been confirmed yet, but it doesn't sound impossible. So what do you think of it? Do you think it will be just enough for this movie, or else? Sound off your opinion on the usual spot below. Giordanno2011-06-18 10:46:12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CACO/CAMPOS Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Acredito que todo os fãs do super querem muito ver as famosas referencias e também existencia de novos personagens,que se gente for ver e a cara do David S Goyer(roterista) ele conhece as hqs e vai trazer boas coisas. Taí a escalação do Harry Lenix que para mim vai ficar com algun deste papeis. Agora fico imaginando que o Russel Crowe deve ter uma bela participação no filme como Jor-El, talvez até desafiando o general Zod ou Brainiac, e claro na fortelaza da solidão com o Clark. tá animadissimo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primo Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Exatamente, CACO Vou até repostar aqui as possibilidades:E o Harry Lennix, interpretará quem?Ron Troupe?Nos quadrinhos, é mais novo.Franklin Stern?Nos quadrinhos, é mais velho.John Henry Irons? Nos quadrinhos, é mais alto.Barack Obama? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dionathaikki Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 essa cara vai fazer o papel do richard pryor do superman 3 kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandro Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Lex: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LEospider Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Sandro, sua imagem de avatar ja da a resposta... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Giordanno Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Caras, tava assistindo Sucker Punch numa qualidade fodástica e devo dizer: esquecendo o roteiro e outras viagens, a sequências de ação são fodas!! Se o Snyder tiver inspirado, dá pra fazer algo fantástico usando os poderes do Super, acho que foi esse o raciocínio dos caras da Warner, "bixo, deixa o Nolan e o Goyer com o roteiro, bola ai umas cenas pra deixar nêgo de queixo caido". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucy in the Sky Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Leonardo DiCaprio é um dos melhores atores atualmente. O personagem estaria em boas mãos, mas eu jamais o teria imaginado como Lex, mesmo sendo meu ator preferido... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sandro Posted June 18, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 18, 2011 Sandro' date=' sua imagem de avatar ja da a resposta... [/quote'] hahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liv A. Posted June 19, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 Exatamente' date=' CACO Vou até repostar aqui as possibilidades:E o Harry Lennix, interpretará quem?Ron Troupe?Nos quadrinhos, é mais novo.Franklin Stern?Nos quadrinhos, é mais velho.John Henry Irons? Nos quadrinhos, é mais alto.Barack Obama? [/quote'] Os atores não precisam ser da mesma idade e altura dos personagens, isso é irrelevante (a não ser que sejam décadas de diferença). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liv A. Posted June 19, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted June 19, 2011 E é besteira ficar comparando o Crowe com Brando, é um ótimo ator, isso que conta. Não gostaria de ver um Jor-El velho, realmente não vejo motivo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dionathaikki Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 quando começam as filmagens?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dornas Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Esse vídeo abre uma possibilidade interessante pra quem acha que o Christopher Reeve é imbatível. Eu estou entre esses. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5JUoNZ-jM&feature=player_embedded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alexander Bell Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 não entendi... vc prefere um boneco digital nas telas com a cara do Reeve, a ver um ator de carne e osso REALMENTE ATUANDO?... então vc gostava do ROSTO do Reeve... e não de sua performance como ator? É isso??? =p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cir-El Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Os atores não precisam ser da mesma idade e altura dos personagens' date=' isso é irrelevante (a não ser que sejam décadas de diferença).[/quote'] Concordo plenamente. Precisa dizer que todo o filme se trata de uma ADAPTAÇÃO? Embora, parece que as pessoas teimam em achar que não, visto o nível de reclamação com qualquer mudança feita com os personagens , embora vivam pedindo por mudanças....rsrsrsrs...é o grande-paradoxo-dos-fãs-do-superman...querem um novo Jor-El, mas não param de compará-lo com o antigo... Querem novas histórias, mas criticam quando elas fogem do que chamam de "classico (??)" para inovarem... Eu nunca entenderei...rsrsrsrsrsrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cir-El Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 E quanto ao filme trazer assinatura do Snyder, foi o que eu disse...o fato de ter um bom roteirista que conhece os quadrinhos e sabe adapta-los faz com que me sinta mais tranquilo em relação ao filme. Em matéria de visual acho eu o Snyder se dará bem. Na escolha dos atores, está acertando pelo menos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primo Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 Querem novas histórias' date=' mas criticam quando elas fogem do que chamam de "classico (??)" para inovarem...[/quote'] Cir-El e Liv, concordo com vocês. O personagem na adaptação não precisa estar na mesma faixa etária, por exemplo, de sua versão original.Mas para um fã das histórias em quadrinhos, a satisfação é maior quando a caracterização (não apenas física, claro) é a mais próxima POSSÍVEL. Um exemplo foi o que o Sam Raimi fez com o JJ Jameson na trilogia Homem Aranha nos cinemas. Ficou muito bom.Se não for atrapalhar a trama, não há problema algum em priorizar a fidelidade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dornas Posted June 20, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 não entendi... vc prefere um boneco digital nas telas com a cara do Reeve' date=' a ver um ator de carne e osso REALMENTE ATUANDO?... então vc gostava do ROSTO do Reeve... e não de sua performance como ator? É isso??? =p[/quote'] Poxa bell, eu não falei isso. Li minha linha milhares de vezes pra ver se deu a entender alguma coisa assim mas nem de perto. Eu disse que abre uma interessante possibilidade pra quem acha que o Reeve é imbatível como Superman. E o Rosto dele é pra mim o rosto do Superman, não engoli o Routh e Tô botando fé no Cavill, mas só depois de ver o filme pra comprovar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liv A. Posted June 21, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Querem novas histórias' date=' mas criticam quando elas fogem do que chamam de "classico (??)" para inovarem...[/quote'] Cir-El e Liv, concordo com vocês. O personagem na adaptação não precisa estar na mesma faixa etária, por exemplo, de sua versão original.Mas para um fã das histórias em quadrinhos, a satisfação é maior quando a caracterização (não apenas física, claro) é a mais próxima POSSÍVEL. Um exemplo foi o que o Sam Raimi fez com o JJ Jameson na trilogia Homem Aranha nos cinemas. Ficou muito bom.Se não for atrapalhar a trama, não há problema algum em priorizar a fidelidade. Às vezes não dá pra achar um ator idêntico ao personagem dos quadrinhos, e vendo a imagem de Harry Lennix e de Ron Troupe, não vejo nada discrepante...mas não sabemos ainda quem ele vai interpretar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Liv A. Posted June 21, 2011 Author Members Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 quando começam as filmagens?? 22 de agosto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members primo Posted June 21, 2011 Members Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 O Newsarama fez uma lista interessante: 10 Things We Want in SUPERMAN Reboot MAN OF STEELDez: Make Metropolis a Character While Superman Return's Metropolis (presumably Sydney, Australia with American license plates on the cars) came off as a perfectly clean, pleasant, and contemporary, director Bryan Singer's vision of the world's most famous fictional city didn't leave much of a lasting impression. Thirty years earlier the Richard Donner films made little attempt to hide that "Metropolis" was actually Manhattan. In fact, they embraced it, even going so far as to have Lex Luthor outright say his underground headquarters -- modeled purposely after NYC's famous Grand Central Terminal -- was under Park Avenue. The real city and its flavor also played a pivotal role in the 3-on-1 showdown with General Zod and his crew in Superman II, despite most of that scene being shot on a set. Christopher Nolan has made a point to use Chicago locations to both ground Gotham City in reality and provide a sense of urban scale in his Batman films, so here's hoping as producer he and director Zack Snyder can spin a mix of The Man of Steel's downtown Vancouver locations and some CGI trickery to give their version of Metropolis the not-quite-like-any-place-else-on-Earth punch it deserves. Metropolis should come off as being of the same size and scale of Manhattan, and as modern as some of the emerging Asian cities around the world, but with a dash of Tomorrowland thrown in. Nove: Go Global, Young Superman Unlike most other superheroes, Superman is bound by nothing -- neither time nor geographical distance nor even the boundaries of space. We got some perfunctory "TV" images of Superman's global good deed-doing in Returns, but the film was mostly bound to Smallville, Metropolis, the Fortress of Solitude (briefly) and a non-descript spot in the Atlantic ocean presumably some miles of the coast of Metropolis. Washington D.C., the Golden Gate Bridge, Paris, France, and the freakin' moon were just some of the various locales used in the original '70s films. The Man of Steel should up the ante with an injection of globe-trotting adventure, to further push the sense of scale that only Superman is capable of meeting. Oito: A Mild-Mannered, Not Clownish Clark Kent The comic book Clark Kent is a respected and eminently capable reporter who as far as the world knows has also managed to woo the beautiful and dynamic Lois Lane. Enough with the movie Clark caricature who is always pushing his glasses up the bridge of his nose and stumbles and bumbles his way around the Daily Planet offices like a Telemundo sitcom character. That's a bit obvious for 2012, isn't it? Lead actor Henry Cavill will have to dig deeper to find two distinct sides of Clark/Superman that doesn't rely solely on broad physical humor and "nerd" cliches. And while we're on the subject of Clark Kent... Sete: The Origin of the Mild-Mannered Reporter Some fans and pundits have been arguing that Nolan and Snyder should skip the "origin" all together. That the death of Krypton story is so well ingrained into the public conscious that it should simply be recapped during the opening credits or even skipped entirely. (Though with Russell Crowe recently signing on as Jor-El, the latter seems like a remote possibility at this stage.) We'll get to an aspect of that argument later on, but one origin that would be worth telling is the one of Clark Kent becoming a reporter for the Daily Planet. In 1978's Superman: The Movie, that part of Superman's 'origin' is treated simply as a story beat that had to be hit. And hit it was ... minimally. After Clark spends his late-teen/early 20s in the Fortress learning from Jor-El's crystals and then flying away as an adult wearing the costume, the film jumps to Clark in Perry White's office just having been hired as a new reporter, with his typing prowess cited as his main qualification. So familiar is the mythos, the story beat was just accepted at face value with no even attempt at color or explanation. There is rich storytelling potential in why Superman chooses to become a newspaper reporter of all things (particularly in 2012), and why he chooses the Planet. Why not tell it ... for the first time on film? Seis: A Charm Offensive With all due respect to Christopher Reeve, Brandon Routh and to a certain degree Tom Welling, kind and earnest only plays so long and well in 2012, particularly as an anchor to a $200 million dollar-plus relaunch of a potential billion-dollars franchise. Look, Superman isn't a badass like Batman. He isn't a wiseass like Spider-Man, and he just isn't tragically hip like Robert Downey Jr.'s Tony Stark/Iron Man. Never will be. There's an undeniable square-ish, Boy Scout quality to Superman for sure. But can't we let the most powerful being on the planet have a little fun being the most powerful being on the planet ... and I don't mean saving little girls' cats from trees. Can't he be just a little cool, ooze a little charm, and yeah, we're going to say it ... have some sex appeal? Look at that Henry Cavill guy. Not a bad-looking dude. Run with it... Cinco: Leave the Homage in the Past and the Easter Eggs on the Cutting Room Floor Okay, time to be a wet blanket for a moment. We get that comic book fans enjoy their Stan Lee cameos, names and references familiar to us dropped into dialogue, and wink-wink-nudge-nudge images placed in the background of scenes, but isn't that all becoming a little rote and even pandering at this point? And if there was ever a comic book character who "belonged" to everyone, it's Superman. So Chris? Zack? You got us. We saw the Batman films and Watchmen. We know you respect the hardcore fans, the source material, and everything that came before. Mutually understood. So let's leave in the past in the past, the in-jokes to a minimum and not have any cameos by Margot Kidder as a Daily News copy editor, any police officers named Sgt. Curt Swan, or passing references to other DC Comics' cities or characters ...unless Warner Bros. really means it this time ... ...if you know what we mean? Quatro: A Traditional Costume Some attempts at contemporizing are fine. But let's keep it iconic, folks. No kneepads, body armor, or uni-leggings, please. Yeah... we'll talk more about that soon. Três: Let Superman Use His Powers ... Offensively C'mon Bryan Singer. You made Superman's flying scenes beautiful and elegant. But all you could think of is having him basically lift things the entire film? Okay, yeah, he stood in front of a Gatling gun and a bullet bounced off his eyeball, that was pretty cool. But fans are hungry to see Superman throw a punch, swing a redwood tree like a baseball bat, or otherwise kick some ass. If Michael Shannon's Zod (and his underlings) will also be super-powered, how about a contemporary, CGI-powered, no-holds-barred throwdown of a fight scene -- inspired by (although not a recreation of) Superman II's famous tag-team match? Dois: Create a BRAND NEW Sensory Shorthand We touched on whether or not the origin should be told again a bit earlier. We're here to argue not only that it should, it has to be told again to some degree, because Snyder has to completely rewrite everything and anything we know about Superman from the movies and TV. Because if he doesn't write over it with something new, old images and impressions will linger. Last's month Smallville finale has to be the very last time some of the now-ubiquitous Superman sensory elements are ever seen or heard from. The crystal Fortress. The ghostly visage and voice of the wise Jor-El. The Salkind-Donner monochromatic vision of Krypton. Jor-El and the George Washington hair. Gone. All of it. It all has to be retired but for good, and replaced in the mind's eye with completely new input. New colors, fashions, landscapes, and architecture for Krypton. An entirely new and different Fortress of Solitude and most of all... Um: John Williams' Theme Music Retired Yeah, even that too. We're going there. Understand there is a part of us tempted to hold onto this. Williams' iconic theme music (which may, in fact, be aging even better than his original Star Wars theme) is maybe pitch perfect. Perhaps no string of musical notes has ever better captured the essence of a familiar character than this one did. And we'll even take it one step further -- whomever tries to write a new Superman theme for Man of Steel, be it James Newton Howard and/or Hans Zimmer, won't be as successful. It will not be as good, or as memorable. But perhaps of all sensory sensations, music has the power to evoke memories and place the listener in a specific time and place. And while William's theme may be the best contribution to the Superman mythos ever made outside of a comic book page, this is the very same reason why The Man of Steel must forge ahead without it. primo2011-06-21 20:53:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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