Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Review japa: So far' date=' the bat man of the various 貌 enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the memento ' and ' insomnia ' with the Christopher * no run which is observed built up, the latest bat man has been prominent. Most the bat man, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the no run powerfully and dynamically.Blues * Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the ゴッサムシティ which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of the no run which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly. <P =textMain2>Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian * veil which is played. While the previous production ' machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael * ケイン and リーアム * ニーソン, gay Lee * old man and Morgan * Freeman, Quillian * マーフィ, トム * ウィルキンソン, ケイティ * ホームズ, and Watanabe 謙. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. <P =txt_right>(Sentence / rice field Takashi period) <P =txt_right> http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.so- net.ne.jp%2Fmovie%2Fbatmanbegins%2Freview.html&langpair= ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flang uage_tools <P =txt_right> <P =txt_right> <P =txt_right>Um cara do SHH melhorou a construção do tradutor: <P =txt_right> <P =txt_right>So far, the Batman of the various enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the Memento ' and ' Insomnia ' with the Christopher Nolan which is observed built up, the latest Batman has been prominent. Most the Batman, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the Nolan powerfully and dynamically.Bruce Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the Gotham which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of Nolan which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly.Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian Bale which is played. While the previous production ' Machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, Cillian Murphy, and Watanabe. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. <P =txt_right> <P =txt_right> <P =txt_right> [/quote'] tradução um tanto confusa felipe, precisamos esperar por algo melhor.... mas valeu assim mesmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members begins Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 pessoal jaja eu vou botar aqui uma critica de batman begins q tem na revista MovieX que eu comprei pa quem no sabe eh uma revista inglesa q fala de cinema e dvd e q eu ompro todo mês num livraria aqui em Recife adorei a critica vei num eh muito longa como a de sadosky mas ja da pa ficar empolgado jaja posto,pq vo comer agora flw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 1 - I had my issues with the Batsuit and the car(de lei ele falar isso' date=' fazer o que) 2 - I absolutely LOVED it.será? tá me cheirando a fedentosa, mas vá lá.... 3 - And so will every other Batman fan on the planet, trust me. This film is any hardcore Bat fan’s wet dream come true... It really is the serious, dark, violent, scary, Batman film we’ve always wanted to see, and I’ll give you my reasons why... sei não...esse discurso de "isso é tudo o que os fãs radicais sonhavam já tá me deixando de saco cheio...sei lá... 4 - You can tell they “governed” certain things here and there, I mean c’mon, it’s a 150 million dollar movie 5 - Nolan simply owns this movie f**kING AWESOME!!!!! 6 - I believe he was destined to play this part, since both “American Psycho” and more recently, “Equilibrium”, echoed shadows of both sides of the character he plays in this movie ISSO FOI BRILHANTE!!! 7 - Michael Caine is another real standout COBRA CRIADA É OUTRA COISA, HEHEHE. 8 - The scenes where Bruce and Alfred are trying to figure out how to retro-fit the military body armor and various other gadgets to create the Batman costume, are very well done. AQUI ELE FOI MUITO ESPERTO(COLLORA) POIS COMENTOU DE FORMA EXPLANADA SEM ENTREGAR SPOILER ALGO QUE CERTAMENTE VAI SER MUITO LEGAL DE VER NO FILME. 9 - Some of my favorite moments in the film are the exchanges between Freeman and Bale. BOM, ISSO ME DEIXOU CURIOSO. 10 - Katie Holmes, I could have taken or left. She wasn’t horrible, but she definitely didn’t measure up to the great performances around her, and for some odd reason, to me, just didn’t seem to “fit” in the movie. INCRÍVEL COMO ISSO QUASE ACABOU SE TORNANDO UMA UNANIMIDADE... 11 - It was definitely interesting to see choices made for the color palette of the film that were so incongruent to the subject matter. The usual cooler, drab, grays and blues of Gotham city gave way to beautiful, golden, warm earth tones that brought a different, and more realistic look to the film. f**kING AWESOME!!!! 12 - This movie, much like the Dark Knight himself, is very pragmatic. Almost too much so... It’s so reality based and everything about Batman is explained in so much detail, that there’s really nothing left to the imagination of the viewer. This serves the film on many levels, but I feel might hinder it as well for people who like their brand of superhero flick with a little bit of the unknown, or X-factor, if you will. NESSA PARTE MEU INGLÊS PIFOU.... 13 - Following in what was called by a WB executive, “The Spiderman Model”, WB wants to use this movie to set up two more sequels, which from what I’ve heard, are going to be more action oriented. ISSO EU NÃO GOSTEI. 14 - What’s going to be really interesting to see, is if kids and people who are generally not hardcore Batman fans are going to be able to sit through the first hour of this movie without being... Bored ISSO EU AMEI!!!! 15 - but for the average person who’s going into Batman Begins expecting a non stop action movie QUE SE DANEM!!!!HEHEHE 16 - The film is more of an intellectual, psychological character study, and a brilliant one at that. f**kING AWESOOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!!!! 17 - I’m not sure if it was because I was watching Christian Bale, or the fact that I really love the Patrick Bateman character from “American Psycho”, but parts of this movie, particularly when Bruce Wayne is out in public, feel very derivative to me. ALGUÉM PODE ME EXPLICAR ISSO, NÃO ENTENDI? 18 - Yeah, I would’ve liked to have seen a more traditional, Year One style BatsuitDIPsh*t!!!! 19 - The suit works. The whole movie works. It works on all the levels it’s supposed to, and I think it’s a bold, and in my opinion, a pretty successful attempt at building the proverbial bridge between art and commercialism POR ESSA EU TE PERDÔO, RSRSRSRS... [/quote'] 1 - qual fãlóide que não reclamou? 2 - Será que a Warner molhou a mão dele de leve? Rs... Mas pode ser verdade sim... 3 - Teria ele forçada a barra? Veremos dia 17. 4 - Normal... 5 - Nolan me fudeu a cabeça desde Amnésia. 6 - Não tenha mais nada a declarar sobre Bale. 7 - Não esperava nada morno do Caine. 8 - Essa parte do filme é a 2ª que mais quero ver. Na verdade está bem em ordem para mim mesmo. 9 - Freeman e Bale? Hmmm!!! 10 - que a personagem cunpra seu papel para Bruce e Batman. 11 - Conceito de Goyer, concretizado pela equipe de arte! 12 - Pelo que entendi, é que tudo é explicado nesse filme. Diferente de outros filmes de super-heróis que deixam as algumas desconhecidas para o público. Pode atrapalahr o público de curtir o filme. E ele ainda disse: "Se é que me entendem..." 13 - Ação? Pode ser. Já que não tem tanta coisa para explicar assim. Ruim? Bom? Vamos ver em 2007... 14 - O filme fala por si? Muito bom! 15 - Nesse eu quero ação só do meio para o final mesmo. 16 - 17 - Derivative? Alguém? 18 - Quem reclama, reclama sempre. 19 - Para fechar bem a crítica e deixar o povo louco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Sensacional...q crítica...ateh o Corolla' date=' a esperança dos detratores pra malhar o filme, adorou...heheh...eh claro...o cara eh fâ e como ele disse todo fâ vai amar o filme.Todos os reviews concordam com várias coisas, mas uma chama a atenção...a de que não eh uma simples adaptação de HQ, nem um simples filme comercial...Outra coisa q me chamou a atenção, foi a questão q o Corolla colocou com relação aos público médio q não eh fã de Batman..."What’s going to be really interesting to see, is if kids and people who are generally not hardcore Batman fans are going to be able to sit through the first hour of this movie without being... Bored. I certainly wasn’t, because I have an interest in this character and his story, but for the average person who’s going into Batman Begins expecting a non stop action movie, I’m afraid what they’re going to get, albeit engaging and very well done, is something quite different. Don’t get me wrong; the action sequences in this film are amazing, especially the stuff with the car. There’s just not as much of it as you would expect in a superhero flick, because Batman doesn’t show up until halfway through the movie. The film is more of an intellectual, psychological character study, and a brilliant one at that."E o Spot10 ??? Dramático...[/quote'] Já debati a crítica abaixo com o adam. Quanto ao spot 10... "From The Death Of Innocence..." "Comes The Birth Of A Legend!" :arrepio: felipef38503.5907523148 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Review japa: So far' date=' the bat man of the various 貌 enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the memento ' and ' insomnia ' with the Christopher * no run which is observed built up, the latest bat man has been prominent. Most the bat man, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the no run powerfully and dynamically.Blues * Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the ゴッサムシティ which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of the no run which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly. Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian * veil which is played. While the previous production ' machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael * ケイン and リーアム * ニーソン, gay Lee * old man and Morgan * Freeman, Quillian * マーフィ, トム * ウィルキンソン, ケイティ * ホームズ, and Watanabe 謙. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. (Sentence / rice field Takashi period) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.so- net.ne.jp%2Fmovie%2Fbatmanbegins%2Freview.html&langpair= ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flang uage_tools Um cara do SHH melhorou a construção do tradutor: So far, the Batman of the various enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the Memento ' and ' Insomnia ' with the Christopher Nolan which is observed built up, the latest Batman has been prominent. Most the Batman, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the Nolan powerfully and dynamically.Bruce Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the Gotham which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of Nolan which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly.Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian Bale which is played. While the previous production ' Machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, Cillian Murphy, and Watanabe. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. [/quote'] tradução um tanto confusa felipe, precisamos esperar por algo melhor.... mas valeu assim mesmo. Foram os caras do SHH que tentaram traduzir. Só um perito mesmo. Está terrível... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RegisPN Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Saiu uma breve matéria sobre filmes de Super Heróis na revista Monet (p/ assinantes da Net/Sky). A matéria é do Rubens Edwald Filho, e apenas cita Batman Begins. Mas o legal é a foto q saiu do Batman! Nada de novo, é uma em q ele está no alto de um prédio, e na parte de baixo da foto aparece o reflexo da imagem, quase como um espelho. O mais bacana, é q a foto é de meia página, e está bem detalhada. Vou ver se scaneio e publico aqui... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 pessoaljaja eu vou botar aqui uma critica de batman beginsq tem na revista MovieX que eu compreipa quem no sabe eh uma revista inglesaq fala de cinema e dvde q eu ompro todo mêsnum livraria aqui em Recifeadorei a critica veinum eh muito longa como a de sadosky mas ja da pa ficar empolgadojaja posto' date='pq vo comer agoraflw[/quote'] Digite toda aqui e ponha a foto da capa. É uma ordem! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Saiu uma breve matéria sobre filmes de Super Heróis na revista Monet (p/ assinantes da Net/Sky). A matéria é do Rubens Edwald Filho' date=' e apenas cita Batman Begins. Mas o legal é a foto q saiu do Batman! Nada de novo, é uma em q ele está no alto de um prédio, e na parte de baixo da foto aparece o reflexo da imagem, quase como um espelho. O mais bacana, é q a foto é de meia página, e está bem detalhada. Vou ver se scaneio e publico aqui... [/quote'] VAI VER SE ESCANEIA???VAI VER???TEM NOÇÃO DO PERIGO RAPAZ????????hehehehe, just joking.... se puder fazer isso, seremos muito gratos regis, valeu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Saiu uma breve matéria sobre filmes de Super Heróis na revista Monet (p/ assinantes da Net/Sky). A matéria é do Rubens Edwald Filho' date=' e apenas cita Batman Begins. Mas o legal é a foto q saiu do Batman! Nada de novo, é uma em q ele está no alto de um prédio, e na parte de baixo da foto aparece o reflexo da imagem, quase como um espelho. O mais bacana, é q a foto é de meia página, e está bem detalhada. Vou ver se scaneio e publico aqui... [/quote'] Já sei qual é a foto. Mas será que você podia digitar aqui o que ele fala, PN. Mesmo que de maneira breve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Review japa: So far' date=' the bat man of the various 貌 enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the memento ' and ' insomnia ' with the Christopher * no run which is observed built up, the latest bat man has been prominent. Most the bat man, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the no run powerfully and dynamically.Blues * Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the ゴッサムシティ which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of the no run which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly. Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian * veil which is played. While the previous production ' machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael * ケイン and リーアム * ニーソン, gay Lee * old man and Morgan * Freeman, Quillian * マーフィ, トム * ウィルキンソン, ケイティ * ホームズ, and Watanabe 謙. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. (Sentence / rice field Takashi period) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.so- net.ne.jp%2Fmovie%2Fbatmanbegins%2Freview.html&langpair= ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flang uage_tools Um cara do SHH melhorou a construção do tradutor: So far, the Batman of the various enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the Memento ' and ' Insomnia ' with the Christopher Nolan which is observed built up, the latest Batman has been prominent. Most the Batman, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the Nolan powerfully and dynamically.Bruce Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the Gotham which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of Nolan which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly.Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian Bale which is played. While the previous production ' Machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, Cillian Murphy, and Watanabe. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. [/quote'] tradução um tanto confusa felipe, precisamos esperar por algo melhor.... mas valeu assim mesmo. Foram os caras do SHH que tentaram traduzir. Só um perito mesmo. Está terrível... velho, sem querer parecer arrogante, mas já o sendo... meu inglês não é dos piores, não é mesmo....mas parece que as palavras em sua grande maioria estão desconexas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted May 31, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 irei destacar em vermelho o que achei justo da parte dele e em verde o que não gostei ou não entendi. Batman Begins Review by Sandy Collora I had my issues with the Batsuit and the car(de lei ele falar isso' date=' fazer o que) [/quote'] Eh claro q ele falaria do uniforme, alguém sempre tem uma restrição, eu mmo acho q falta mobilidade ainda, mmo assim, se torna pequeno no meio de tantas coisa positivas. And so will every other Batman fan on the planet' date=' trust me. This film is any hardcore Bat fan’s wet dream come true... It really is the serious, dark, violent, scary, Batman film we’ve always wanted to see, and I’ll give you my reasons why... sei não...esse discurso de "isso é tudo o que os fãs radicais sonhavam já tá me deixando de saco cheio...sei lá... [/quote'] Isso pq estes são só os primeiros reviews, imagina os outros...Mas isso eh positivo, se vai agradar eh pq eh bom, mas o reviews estão meio q na mma linha, e como estamos lendo todos ateh agora eh normal haver umas repetições. You can tell they “governed” certain things here and there' date=' I mean c’mon, it’s a 150 million dollar movie graças a deus pelo menos isso ele reconhece [/quote'] Isso foi o que falei em algum post lá atrás, este eh o melhor e mais real e próximo que uma adaptação de HQ que se pode fazer, com um orçamento desses e com tantas empresas envolvidas. Business as usual. when he basically re-wrote the scriptconfirmando o que eu já havia dito. The draft that I read last year' date=' written by David Goyer, is a little different, especially dialogue wise, from the film I just saw. [/quote'] Isso eu não sabia...mais crédito pro Nolan. $$$ Nolan simply owns this movie f**kING AWESOME!!!!!. His choices in tone' date=' palette, composition, pacing, editing, and of course, casting, are impeccable. [/quote'] Fotografia maravilhosa...deixou o filme bem real... The performances are phenomenal. Christian Bale is by far' date=' the best Batman we’ve seen to date. His physicality, presence, and overall demeanor, both as Bruce Wayne and the Dark Knight, really brought the subtleties that embody the true essence of the Batman to life in this movie. I believe he was destined to play this part, since both “American Psycho” and more recently, “Equilibrium”, echoed shadows of both sides of the character he plays in this movie ISSO FOI BRILHANTE!!!. [/quote'] Eu ainda não assisti Equilibrium, mas posso falar por American Psycho, e Bale detona mmo. E sem dúvida um dos grandes mérito do filme foi a escolha do elenco. Michael Caine is another real standout COBRA CRIADA É OUTRA COISA' date=' HEHEHE. I’m guessing it’s because of the nature of the writing, with it being an origin story, so the character of Alfred plays a much larger and thus much more significant role in the film. It’s great to see Alfred fleshed out a bit in this movie and do things other than drive Bruce around, fetch tea and deliver obvious, lead in dialogue to get Batman to say something funny or clever. The scenes where Bruce and Alfred are trying to figure out how to retro-fit the military body armor and various other gadgets to create the Batman costume, are very well done. AQUI ELE FOI MUITO ESPERTO(COLLORA) POIS COMENTOU DE FORMA EXPLANADA SEM ENTREGAR SPOILER ALGO QUE CERTAMENTE VAI SER MUITO LEGAL DE VER NO FILME It’s almost like seeing the birth of the character, which is very, very cool. [/quote'] Não li roteiro, portanto não sei de todos os detalhes, e pra falar a verdade nem quero saber......vou deixar algumas surpresas para o filme. Both Morgan Freeman and Gary Oldman as well' date=' turn in stellar performances as Lucius Fox and James Gordon, respectively. Some of my favorite moments in the film are the exchanges between Freeman and Bale. BOM, ISSO ME DEIXOU CURIOSO I wish both of these characters had more screen time, particularly Gordon, but I’m sure the sequels will deliver that. Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, and Cillian Murphy are also very good. I really feel that a big part of why this movie is so good, is the incredible group of actors Nolan has pulled together here... Katie Holmes, I could have taken or left. She wasn’t horrible, but she definitely didn’t measure up to the great performances around her, and for some odd reason, to me, just didn’t seem to “fit” in the movie. INCRÍVEL COMO ISSO QUASE ACABOU SE TORNANDO UMA UNANIMIDADE... The cinematography is in a word, brilliant. [/quote'] Tb fiquei curioso qto ao Freeman e Bale, falar do Freeman eh chover no molhado, adoro ele como ator e não eh surpresa ele ser elogiado. Coitada da Katie, no meio de tanta fera.... It was definitely interesting to see choices made for the color palette of the film that were so incongruent to the subject matter. The usual cooler' date=' drab, grays and blues of Gotham city gave way to beautiful, golden, warm earth tones that brought a different, and more realistic look to the film. f**kING AWESOME!!!! This movie, much like the Dark Knight himself, is very pragmatic. Almost too much so... It’s so reality based and everything about Batman is explained in so much detail, that there’s really nothing left to the imagination of the viewer. This serves the film on many levels, but I feel might hinder it as well for people who like their brand of superhero flick with a little bit of the unknown, or X-factor, if you will. NESSA PARTE MEU INGLÊS PIFOU.... [/quote'] Só não entendi o finalzinho, o tasl do X-factor..enfim.. Nada eh por acaso no filme , tudo eh explicado e tudo tem um propósito, eh o renascimento do Homem Morcego contado em detalhes para deleite dos fãs. Chances are' date=' that most, if not all of you who are reading this, know Batman’s origin and why he becomes who he is and does what he does. The general moviegoing public does not. Though it would have been nice to see this movie start with Batman already existing and chasing down one of his arch villains, that’s not what the name of this movie implies. However, I think it was smart for Warner Brothers to make an origin movie; it’s going to set up the sequels quite nicely and give the audience the knowledge and background on the character that was previously known only to the fans and readers of the comics only. Following in what was called by a WB executive, “The Spiderman Model”, WB wants to use this movie to set up two more sequels, which from what I’ve heard, are going to be more action oriented. ISSO EU NÃO GOSTEI What’s going to be really interesting to see, is if kids and people who are generally not hardcore Batman fans are going to be able to sit through the first hour of this movie without being... Bored ISSO EU AMEI!!!!. I certainly wasn’t, because I have an interest in this character and his story, but for the average person who’s going into Batman Begins expecting a non stop action movie QUE SE DANEM!!!!HEHEHE, I’m afraid what they’re going to get, albeit engaging and very well done, is something quite different. Don’t get me wrong; the action sequences in this film are amazing, especially the stuff with the car. There’s just not as much of it as you would expect in a superhero flick, because Batman doesn’t show up until halfway through the movie. The film is more of an intellectual, psychological character study, and a brilliant one at that. f**kING AWESOOOOOOOOOME!!!!!!!!! [/quote'] Qto ao público, bem, essa eh uma das minhas maiores curiosidades, como o público médio vai reagir... DUKA...só isso q falo...um mais mais intelectual, cerebral, desenvolvimento piscológico do personagem... I’m not sure if it was because I was watching Christian Bale' date=' or the fact that I really love the Patrick Bateman character from “American Psycho”, but parts of this movie, particularly when Bruce Wayne is out in public, feel very derivative to me. ALGUÉM PODE ME EXPLICAR ISSO, NÃO ENTENDI? It certainly doesn’t affect the movie one way or the other, but I just thought it was something worth mentioning since some other people I know that have also seen the movie, said the exact same thing. Anything about this movie I have an issue with, is basically either an artistic choice or just fanboy nitpicking. Yeah, I would’ve liked to have seen a more traditional, Year One style BatsuitDIPsh*t!!!!, since this is basically the Year One story, and Bale definitely has the build for it, but it doesn’t really matter. The suit works. The whole movie works. It works on all the levels it’s supposed to, and I think it’s a bold, and in my opinion, a pretty successful attempt at building the proverbial bridge between art and commercialism POR ESSA EU TE PERDÔO, RSRSRSRS... It’s aiming to please both the hardcore fans as well as the masses, so it has it’s work cut out for it, but I sincerely and wholeheartedly hope it succeeds in spades, because simply put, It’s a great movie and the filmmakers deserve it. [/quote'] Ele achou parecido com o personagem da american Psycho em alguns momento. Alguém confirma ? Ele gosto do uniforma mas tem suas restrições, normal...o bom eh que parece q o o uniforme funciona bem no filme e eh isso q realmente importa. 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Members RegisPN Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Saiu uma breve matéria sobre filmes de Super Heróis na revista Monet (p/ assinantes da Net/Sky). A matéria é do Rubens Edwald Filho' date=' e apenas cita Batman Begins. Mas o legal é a foto q saiu do Batman! Nada de novo, é uma em q ele está no alto de um prédio, e na parte de baixo da foto aparece o reflexo da imagem, quase como um espelho. O mais bacana, é q a foto é de meia página, e está bem detalhada. Vou ver se scaneio e publico aqui... [/quote'] Já sei qual é a foto. Mas será que você podia digitar aqui o que ele fala, PN. Mesmo que de maneira breve? Então, como disse, o cara não entra muito em detalhes sobre a produção de Batman Begins. Diz apenas que será uma nova empreitada, e q está o filme começará do zero, com a origem do "Cavaleiro da Noite" (não das Trevas). Comenta mais sobre a "faca-de-dois-gumes" q é fazer filmes sobre Super Heróis, principalmente devido à cobrança dos fãs, e cita alguns sucessos e fracassos. Prometo q amanhã scaneio e publíco aqui! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted May 31, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 17 - I’m not sure if it was because I was watching Christian Bale' date=' or the fact that I really love the Patrick Bateman character from “American Psycho”, but parts of this movie, particularly when Bruce Wayne is out in public, feel very derivative to me. ALGUÉM PODE ME EXPLICAR ISSO, NÃO ENTENDI? [/quote'] 17 - Derivative? Alguém? Olha o DERIVATIVE, direto do dicionário... n 1 Gram derivado, palavra que deriva de outra. 2 qualquer coisa que deriva de outra. 3 Math derivada. • adj derivativo, derivado, derivante, não original, secundário. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members begins Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 bem a capa eu nao posso colocar aqui por dois motivos 1.nao tenho scanner 2.essa merda dessa revista nao tem site eu vo traduzir aqui a critica na net e vo bota aqui pera so 5 min Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Review japa: So far' date=' the bat man of the various 貌 enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the memento ' and ' insomnia ' with the Christopher * no run which is observed built up, the latest bat man has been prominent. Most the bat man, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the no run powerfully and dynamically.Blues * Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the ゴッサムシティ which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of the no run which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly. Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian * veil which is played. While the previous production ' machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael * ケイン and リーアム * ニーソン, gay Lee * old man and Morgan * Freeman, Quillian * マーフィ, トム * ウィルキンソン, ケイティ * ホームズ, and Watanabe 謙. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. (Sentence / rice field Takashi period) http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.so- net.ne.jp%2Fmovie%2Fbatmanbegins%2Freview.html&langpair= ja%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flang uage_tools Um cara do SHH melhorou a construção do tradutor: So far, the Batman of the various enlivened the screen, but in the point where it can bake heroism clearly, ' the Memento ' and ' Insomnia ' with the Christopher Nolan which is observed built up, the latest Batman has been prominent. Most the Batman, owner of the character which has depth, kept growing in the comics * hero how as a hero, it starts drawing the Nolan powerfully and dynamically.Bruce Wayne who holds the trauma which is killed the parents before the eye are on end of the wandering and in the Himalayan mountain, at the temple " of alliance of the shadow ", as for the first half which repeats training where in order to overcome fear the self becomes existence of fear, real action of shooting position. After returning to the Gotham which became corrupted, when it keeps becoming the hero of the fear which threatens the bad guy the tremendous car chase and explosive scene, interweaving also stunt, one air 呵 forming. Question and answer it keeps pulling needlessly strongly. Until the will of the father whom most, it tries you will divide the no run into the inside of the character and you will enter, you will hold down the conquest and anger of the trauma and probably to rebuild the town is succeeded, persuasive power spinning process, all the way, you show. You look at among hearts of the human and personality of Nolan which is set, has been fixed to this material exactly.Furthermore, as for the hero growth 譚 which is colored in this trouble furthermore it has become charm ones depending upon the Christian Bale which is played. While the previous production ' Machinist ' with he who the sleeplessness man body performing is done, holding weakness, expressing the character which after the wandering of the soul keeps becoming the hero skillfully, you show. With climax it is everywhere, but gorgeousness of the actor position which is concentrated it has not been defeated to that. Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman, Cillian Murphy, and Watanabe. Just, the performance group which is rich in personality rivals the 妍, makes the respective character the existence which lives. Being stylish, while being tossed about in the image where the メリハリ is effective, the sweat you grasp to in the last hand. It is the cute SI rising. [/quote'] tradução um tanto confusa felipe, precisamos esperar por algo melhor.... mas valeu assim mesmo. Foram os caras do SHH que tentaram traduzir. Só um perito mesmo. Está terrível... velho, sem querer parecer arrogante, mas já o sendo... meu inglês não é dos piores, não é mesmo....mas parece que as palavras em sua grande maioria estão desconexas... Não. Tranquilo... Como disse, está ruim mesmo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 respondendo as suas respostas Felipef, sorry pela confusão, ainda não sei editar direito esses textos... 1 - qual fãlóide que não reclamou? dessa parte? eu em momento algum expressei descontentamento ao contrário de muitos por aqui de início que nem preciso mencionar... 2 - Será que a Warner molhou a mão dele de leve? Rs... Mas pode ser verdade sim... pois é velho...ficou um pouco forçado....mas enfim, se mal ele não fala... 3 - Teria ele forçada a barra? Veremos dia 17. é que eu já li muito esse tipo de comentário cara...então começa a parecer uma coisa forçada sabe...tá virando quase uma heresia falar mal desse filme, aí é que tá o problema acho, na minha opinião... 4 - Normal... bom, aqui eu marquei em vermelho, pois é algo que desde o início eu queria fazer as pessoas entenderem e elas simplesmente não queriam se tocar disso sabe...tipo, as pessoas querem coisas ao estilo alex ross, frank miller e por aí vai, e no seu curta, collora seguiu o estilo de alex ross, por isso entre outras coisas, que a galera delirou tanto com dead end, pois eu bato o pé em achar que pra um filme de proporções como begins esse tipo de coisa não se aplica, poxa, pra um cara que é herdeiro da empresa mais poderosa de uma megalópole como gotham city e tem tudo a sua disposição em matéria de alta tecnologia, mesmo em seus primeiros dias como vigilante ficaria ridículo sair de cuecão a la alex ross por aí combatendo o crime!!!o primeiro tres oitão detona o coitado!!!! 5 - Nolan me fudeu a cabeça desde Amnésia. a essas alturas sabe que eu até já nem mais dou bola que darren aronofsky pulou fora do projeto?(o cara de requiem para um sonho) 6 - Não tenha mais nada a declarar sobre Bale. nem eu velho, nem eu. 7 - Não esperava nada morno do Caine. ele virou meu ídolo maior o dia que eu soube e logicamente, assisti a um filme chamado get carter, de 1971. 8 - Essa parte do filme é a 2ª que mais quero ver. Na verdade está bem em ordem para mim mesmo. tão dizendo até que vai ser divertido, vai ter uns lance engraçado.... 9 - Freeman e Bale? Hmmm!!! andou vazando que a participação de freeman é mínima no filme, acho por isso. 10 - que a personagem cunpra seu papel para Bruce e Batman. pelo menos com a beleza ela não faltou excomungada!!!!hahahaha 11 - Conceito de Goyer, concretizado pela equipe de arte! o conceito de toda a parte visual e de como deveria ser gotham veio dele? 12 - Pelo que entendi, é que tudo é explicado nesse filme. Diferente de outros filmes de super-heróis que deixam as algumas desconhecidas para o público. Pode atrapalahr o público de curtir o filme. E ele ainda disse: "Se é que me entendem..." pode crer. 13 - Ação? Pode ser. Já que não tem tanta coisa para explicar assim. Ruim? Bom? Vamos ver em 2007... olha, qualquer coisa fugindo do modelo de ação "cgi sucks, spitting blood" não conta com meu aval. 14 - O filme fala por si? Muito bom! essa foi a melhor parte que eu li sem dúvida... já imaginou??pais deixando o cinema com filhinhos desapontados....hahahahaha dá até pena dos pimpolho, mas fazer o que....eu era um deles, agora chegou minha vez de zoar!!!! 15 - Nesse eu quero ação só do meio para o final mesmo. cara eu quero que tudo que haja de bom nesse filme, e por consequência esperamos, nos seguintes, seje bem dosado, nada demais ou a menos... 16 - meu sonho é deixar a sessão do cinema com a cabeça girando cheia de perguntas não respondidas....hahahaha me aconteceu isso quando saí do cine após amnésia... 17 - Derivative? Alguém? ?!?!?!?! 18 - Quem reclama, reclama sempre. again...dipsh*t! 19 - Para fechar bem a crítica e deixar o povo louco. básico.vamos aguardar agora pelas próximas...a pior parte, a espera. adam_jones_138503.6116666667 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members begins Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 vo tentar copiar mais ou menos a revista colocando as fotos q tem nela,ai eu coloco elas aqui tbm pq o editor fala de cada personagem e do filme ja ta traduzido vo escrver now perem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 17 - I’m not sure if it was because I was watching Christian Bale' date=' or the fact that I really love the Patrick Bateman character from “American Psycho”, but parts of this movie, particularly when Bruce Wayne is out in public, feel very derivative to me. ALGUÉM PODE ME EXPLICAR ISSO, NÃO ENTENDI? [/quote'] 17 - Derivative? Alguém? Olha o DERIVATIVE, direto do dicionário...n 1 Gram derivado, palavra que deriva de outra. 2 qualquer coisa que deriva de outra. 3 Math derivada. • adj derivativo, derivado, derivante, não original, secundário. Além da preguiça, estou batendo 2 matérias ao memso tempo. Dá esse desconto, Big... O que ele quis dizer com derivação, então? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 respondendo as suas respostas Felipef' date=' sorry pela confusão, ainda não sei editar direito esses textos... 1 - qual fãlóide que não reclamou? dessa parte? eu em momento algum expressei descontentamento ao contrário de muitos por aqui de início que nem preciso mencionar... 2 - Será que a Warner molhou a mão dele de leve? Rs... Mas pode ser verdade sim... pois é velho...ficou um pouco forçado....mas enfim, se mal ele não fala... 3 - Teria ele forçada a barra? Veremos dia 17. é que eu já li muito esse tipo de comentário cara...então começa a parecer uma coisa forçada sabe...tá virando quase uma heresia falar mal desse filme, aí é que tá o problema acho, na minha opinião... 4 - Normal... bom, aqui eu marquei em vermelho, pois é algo que desde o início eu queria fazer as pessoas entenderem e elas simplesmente não queriam se tocar disso sabe...tipo, as pessoas querem coisas ao estilo alex ross, frank miller e por aí vai, e no seu curta, collora seguiu o estilo de alex ross, por isso entre outras coisas, que a galera delirou tanto com dead end, pois eu bato o pé em achar que pra um filme de proporções como begins esse tipo de coisa não se aplica, poxa, pra um cara que é herdeiro da empresa mais poderosa de uma megalópole como gotham city e tem tudo a sua disposição em matéria de alta tecnologia, mesmo em seus primeiros dias como vigilante ficaria ridículo sair de cuecão a la alex ross por aí combatendo o crime!!!o primeiro tres oitão detona o coitado!!!! 5 - Nolan me fudeu a cabeça desde Amnésia. a essas alturas sabe que eu até já nem mais dou bola que darren aronofsky pulou fora do projeto?(o cara de requiem para um sonho) 6 - Não tenha mais nada a declarar sobre Bale. nem eu velho, nem eu. 7 - Não esperava nada morno do Caine. ele virou meu ídolo maior o dia que eu soube e logicamente, assisti a um filme chamado get carter, de 1971. 8 - Essa parte do filme é a 2ª que mais quero ver. Na verdade está bem em ordem para mim mesmo. tão dizendo até que vai ser divertido, vai ter uns lance engraçado.... 9 - Freeman e Bale? Hmmm!!! andou vazando que a participação de freeman é mínima no filme, acho por isso. 10 - que a personagem cunpra seu papel para Bruce e Batman. pelo menos com a beleza ela não faltou excomungada!!!!hahahaha 11 - Conceito de Goyer, concretizado pela equipe de arte! o conceito de toda a parte visual e de como deveria ser gotham veio dele? 12 - Pelo que entendi, é que tudo é explicado nesse filme. Diferente de outros filmes de super-heróis que deixam as algumas desconhecidas para o público. Pode atrapalahr o público de curtir o filme. E ele ainda disse: "Se é que me entendem..." pode crer. 13 - Ação? Pode ser. Já que não tem tanta coisa para explicar assim. Ruim? Bom? Vamos ver em 2007... olha, qualquer coisa fugindo do modelo de ação "cgi sucks, spitting blood" não conta com meu aval. 14 - O filme fala por si? Muito bom! essa foi a melhor parte que eu li sem dúvida... já imaginou??pais deixando o cinema com filhinhos desapontados....hahahahaha dá até pena dos pimpolho, mas fazer o que....eu era um deles, agora chegou minha vez de zoar!!!! 15 - Nesse eu quero ação só do meio para o final mesmo. cara eu quero que tudo que haja de bom nesse filme, e por consequência esperamos, nos seguintes, seje bem dosado, nada demais ou a menos... 16 - meu sonho é deixar a sessão do cinema com a cabeça girando cheia de perguntas não respondidas....hahahaha me aconteceu isso quando saí do cine após amnésia... 17 - Derivative? Alguém? ?!?!?!?! 18 - Quem reclama, reclama sempre. again...dipsh*t! 19 - Para fechar bem a crítica e deixar o povo louco. básico.vamos aguardar agora pelas próximas...a pior parte, a espera. [/quote'] 1-Não é você, doido. Falei dos fanáticos do mundo todo. 4-Pijama não! 5-Sim. Mas Darren é um dos maiores diretores da atualidade. Certemente, teria ficado de outra forma. 11-Veio primeiro dele. Depois Nolan e a equipe foram podando pequenos detalhes. 16-Não sei se será assim em BB. felipef38503.6211226852 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Foto maior: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v434/Anthropod/Art%20of%20 4/Batmancamera.jpg E de novo, pergunto. Bale, um futuro diretor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Primeira crítica negativa? É ISSO QUE QUERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Por: Damien Vinjgaard For its entry in the new millenium, Batman endorses a new cinematographic costume, that of Bruce Wayne. After two imposing episodes directed by Tim Burton, the superman had been left for died after his two engagements for the control of the dance floor gothamien in Joel Schumacher. Eight years later, here it is of return younger than ever.With the reading of the summary of the history and as of the intentions of the known realizer, it seems obvious that the night dispenser of justice drank with the same source of youth as his comparses: the Unbreakable one of Mr. Night Shyamalan, to which Batman Begins , more than very other, owes its raison d'être. By its realistic and pragmatic approach of the birth of hero, such a false it is, the realizer of the Village had drawn a new perimeter in which to register the various adventures of the supermen. Although their adventures are magnifiées by the special effects, Spider-man or Hulk owed the revival of their mythologies with the realistic and psychological approach of the minor artist. For its return in the obscure rooms, Batman borrows this same path of the origins and tells the transformation of a man into mite... forgiveness, myth, it is the man spider who disturbed me. Surely because it told the first steps of Batman with Gotham, Batman Year One written by Frank " Sin City " Miller and David Mazzucchelli was a time planned to be adapted. Etrangement, David Goyer ( Blade 3 ) does not fall very far from the comic book with his scenario. Less in the narrative screen or the characters used that in the environment of a city corroded by the crime, similar to the New York of the Seventies, and in which Bruce Wayne must face its demons and its enemies (one will notice on this subject, the multiple brawls with little scoundrels in wet lanes or close to scales fires, very near to the data base). Exit birth of the malicious Double Face and place with the mégalomaniaque madness of Ra' S Al Guhl and with that very court of the Scarecrow. In any event, the enemies of Batman are interchangeable since they all are of the doubles of the superman.But by excavating the myth, Batman Begins is delayed less on the armour than on the skin. Opening its film on a Chinese prison, Christopher Nolan désarçonne the witness and the fan who will not find the dispenser of justice in any rice bowl. Far from Gotham, this introduction precedes the intentions of the scenario writer: to tell the change of a man as hero. Batman is for a long time only one remote dream which takes shape as Bruce Wayne works out its intentions. Accustomed to the cold natural decorations (see Insomnia ), Nolan sublimates the cold and beautiful landscapes. The drive of the young man near the Master Zen Ra' S Al Ghul in the decorations sublimes of a temple nested in the mountains tibétaines is a superb moment though finally rather short. The realizer surfe with his fluid camera on this splendid ground of the sufferings of the young man. Its limpid style, its marrowy movements and its leaning for lyricism illustrate perfectly the state of Bruce Wayne (magnifiquement camped by Christian Basle, the best interpreter, and by far, of the billionaire to the screen). Thanks to the account of David Goyer who explores all the aspects of his psychology (its need for subsidiary report/ratio, its thirst for revenge doubled on an incapacity to kill), Christopher Nolan gives again an unexpected thickness with the orphan with the detriment however of the hero.Because launched in this approach hyperrealist, Nolan pains to organize the meeting with the myth. Contrary to other Batman which embraces the costume upon the departure, the author of Memento develops a more concrete accession and inevitably less impressive. Too much applied to make crystalline all the recesses of the hero, it forgets some to sublimate it as it should be. Even if it is pleasant to see a scenario writer dissecting a superman, it would have been preferred that it maintains it in life a little more. By very explaining A to Z, Batman loses its zones of shade and becomes as interesting as a turn of magic which one knows the trick. Moreover as the "Crusader Cape" does not have super capacity, its rationalization makes him lose the its superb one. Spider-Man becomes closer while being realistic because its mythical dimension is contiguous to its change, Hulk of the same. But Batman, while being a man who threads a costume, appears somewhat ridiculous with the eyes of the witness. It does not have any mythical dimension. The more so as Nolan completely leaves side its lyric visual style developed in the scenes intimists while at the same time it would have needed for magnifier for it the hero. The combat in an environment of Gotham gangsterized by the mafieux ones and the criminals in white collar, are brutal and dry but finally seldom epic (makes some only at the end at the time of a track race behind an elevated railway). There are almost no choreographies and one feels like a frustration not to see nothing more than one rich person militiaman claquer of the malfrats cradingues in yellowed lanes.Taken between the pleasure of finally discovering a character with a real thickness and disappointment to see that the superman will be present rather in the after-effects, Batman Begins has the pace of a dream, of a promise of a better film to come. Moreover, the compressed assembly of Christopher Nolan which bubble any oscillation dramatic and lyric suspension, gives finally this impression to have attended most expensive and longest of the trailers. Where is the saga? http://www.ecranlarge.com/critique-cinema-315.php O cara não queria explicações. felipef38503.6522916667 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Primeira crítica negativa? É ISSO QUE QUERO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Por: <A class=noir_12 href="http://www.ecranlarge.com/profil-redacteur-53.php">Damien Vinjgaard</A> For its entry in the new millenium' date=' Batman endorses a new cinematographic costume, that of Bruce Wayne. After two imposing episodes directed by Tim Burton, the superman had been left for died after his two engagements for the control of the dance floor gothamien in Joel Schumacher. Eight years later, here it is of return younger than ever.With the reading of the summary of the history and as of the intentions of the known realizer, it seems obvious that the night dispenser of justice drank with the same source of youth as his comparses: the Unbreakable one of Mr. Night Shyamalan, to which Batman Begins , more than very other, owes its raison d'être. By its realistic and pragmatic approach of the birth of hero, such a false it is, the realizer of the Village had drawn a new perimeter in which to register the various adventures of the supermen. Although their adventures are magnifiées by the special effects, Spider-man or Hulk owed the revival of their mythologies with the realistic and psychological approach of the minor artist. For its return in the obscure rooms, Batman borrows this same path of the origins and tells the transformation of a man into mite... forgiveness, myth, it is the man spider who disturbed me. Surely because it told the first steps of Batman with Gotham, Batman Year One written by Frank " Sin City " Miller and David Mazzucchelli was a time planned to be adapted. Etrangement, David Goyer ( Blade 3 ) does not fall very far from the comic book with his scenario. Less in the narrative screen or the characters used that in the environment of a city corroded by the crime, similar to the New York of the Seventies, and in which Bruce Wayne must face its demons and its enemies (one will notice on this subject, the multiple brawls with little scoundrels in wet lanes or close to scales fires, very near to the data base). Exit birth of the malicious Double Face and place with the mégalomaniaque madness of Ra' S Al Guhl and with that very court of the Scarecrow. In any event, the enemies of Batman are interchangeable since they all are of the doubles of the superman.But by excavating the myth, Batman Begins is delayed less on the armour than on the skin. Opening its film on a Chinese prison, Christopher Nolan désarçonne the witness and the fan who will not find the dispenser of justice in any rice bowl. Far from Gotham, this introduction precedes the intentions of the scenario writer: to tell the change of a man as hero. Batman is for a long time only one remote dream which takes shape as Bruce Wayne works out its intentions. Accustomed to the cold natural decorations (see Insomnia ), Nolan sublimates the cold and beautiful landscapes. The drive of the young man near the Master Zen Ra' S Al Ghul in the decorations sublimes of a temple nested in the mountains tibétaines is a superb moment though finally rather short. The realizer surfe with his fluid camera on this splendid ground of the sufferings of the young man. Its limpid style, its marrowy movements and its leaning for lyricism illustrate perfectly the state of Bruce Wayne (magnifiquement camped by Christian Basle, the best interpreter, and by far, of the billionaire to the screen). Thanks to the account of David Goyer who explores all the aspects of his psychology (its need for subsidiary report/ratio, its thirst for revenge doubled on an incapacity to kill), Christopher Nolan gives again an unexpected thickness with the orphan with the detriment however of the hero.Because launched in this approach hyperrealist, Nolan pains to organize the meeting with the myth. Contrary to other Batman which embraces the costume upon the departure, the author of Memento develops a more concrete accession and inevitably less impressive. Too much applied to make crystalline all the recesses of the hero, it forgets some to sublimate it as it should be. Even if it is pleasant to see a scenario writer dissecting a superman, it would have been preferred that it maintains it in life a little more. By very explaining A to Z, Batman loses its zones of shade and becomes as interesting as a turn of magic which one knows the trick. Moreover as the "Crusader Cape" does not have super capacity, its rationalization makes him lose the its superb one. Spider-Man becomes closer while being realistic because its mythical dimension is contiguous to its change, Hulk of the same. But Batman, while being a man who threads a costume, appears somewhat ridiculous with the eyes of the witness. It does not have any mythical dimension. The more so as Nolan completely leaves side its lyric visual style developed in the scenes intimists while at the same time it would have needed for magnifier for it the hero. The combat in an environment of Gotham gangsterized by the mafieux ones and the criminals in white collar, are brutal and dry but finally seldom epic (makes some only at the end at the time of a track race behind an elevated railway). There are almost no choreographies and one feels like a frustration not to see nothing more than one rich person militiaman claquer of the malfrats cradingues in yellowed lanes.Taken between the pleasure of finally discovering a character with a real thickness and disappointment to see that the superman will be present rather in the after-effects, Batman Begins has the pace of a dream, of a promise of a better film to come. Moreover, the compressed assembly of Christopher Nolan which bubble any oscillation dramatic and lyric suspension, gives finally this impression to have attended most expensive and longest of the trailers. Where is the saga? http://www.ecranlarge.com/critique-cinema-315.php O cara não queria exolicações demais. [/quote'] não irei me ocupar demais com isso enfim.... basicamente ele desmistifica batman, fala que o morcegão perdeu sua magia, sua mística(que magia caralho, que mística???) e que burton estava certo ao pouparnos de explicações e partir direto pra ação... comparou com hulk, o que já era esperado, vindo de um detrator... elogiou bastante bale, dizendo que foi o melhor bruce/batman até agora, mas basicamente acho que o que ele quis fazer foi defender a posição de que batman não deve ser nada além de entretenimento, e ao se tentar levar a sério, caiu no marasmo. discordo, mas fazer o que. quem viu o filme foi ele, não eu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members begins Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 Batman Begins:O Filme de 2005 O editor da MovieX, Michael Lowe assisti ao filme do Cavaleiro da Noite e relata em primeira mão,as suas impressões. &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; Quinta Feira,26 de maio de 2005.Lá estava eu,saindo da sala de exibição de Batman Begins.Calma!Não foi uma estréia antecipada.E sim uma sessão exclusiva para alguns críticos e editores. Bem, simplesmente o que posso dizer,é que Batman Begins é disparado,não só o melhor filme do ano(sim,melhor que Star Wars e Cruzada),mas também a melhor adaptação de quadrinhos já feita.Você pode achar que estou louco,mas não estou,estou muito bem por sinal.E para mostrar que não cometi um equívoco com essas afirmações,vou falar um pouco do filme. Entrei na sala de exibição,sentei,comprei uma pipoca e esperei pelo filme.As luzes se apagam,e começo a sentir aquele frio na barriga.De repente o símbolo prateado da Warner Bros surgi,seguido pelo novo símbolo da DC Comics, e à partir daí,a grande aventura começa. Os primeiros minutos do filme enfocam muito a família Wayne e Alfred,juntamente com a ainda garota Rachel.Mas conforme o tempo passa,começamos a ver grandes acontecimentos,que farão com que os fãs comecem a se animar para o filme,como o assassinato de Thomas e Martha Wayne,a confusão na cabeça de Bruce,e sua decisão de viajar pelo mundo.Nos minutos seguintes,vemos todo o sofrimento de Bruce,o seu treinamento e conhecemos Henri Ducard e Ra’s Al Ghul(Não irei falar desse personagem,por ordem dos executivos da Warner) , personagens de Liam Neeson e Ken Watanabe.Passada,mais ou menos uma hora de filme,Bruce retorna para Gotham,e aí que a coisa esquenta.Não vou detalhar muito essa parte para não estragar,mas garanto a vocês,que Tim Burton e Joel Schumacher caíram no esquecimento.É outro clima,o filme é denso,no entanto, movimentado,a aventura é intensa a cada minuto que se passa,e o telespectador se envolve de forma extraordinária na trama.As brigas lembram um pouco ao filme A Supremacia Bourne,mas são muito superiores ao mesmo.Posso dizer que pela primeira vez na vida,vi o verdadeiro Batman brigando nos cinemas.Bale quebra muita gente no filme.A cena dele com os ninjas é maravilhosa.Enfim,não vou detalhar mais,pois senão realmente estraga para todos vocês,sejam fãs ou não fãs.Mas é sem duvida o MELHOR FILME DO ANO. Abaixo um comentário rápido sobre cada personagem,e seu respectivo ator: Bruce Wayne/Batman(Christian Bale)- Simplesmente,o ator que melhor interpretou Bruce/Batman até hoje.Bale consegue ser playboy e extrovertido como Bruce,ao mesmo tempo que,triste e abatido como Batman.Nota 10 para ele Alfred Pennyworth(Michael Caine)-Não é a toa que Caine é um Sir.Atuação fantástica,digna de um Oscar de ator coadjuvante,no papel do fiel mordomo e amigo de Bruce Wayne.A cena do incêndio da mansão Wayne,mostra como Caine é competente.Sua atuação nessa cena é magnífica,e os diálogos então... Nota 9,5 Lucios Fox(Morgan Freeman)-Essa para mim,foi uma das melhores atuações de Freeman.Não há muito complexo no seu personagem,mas ele tem um papel fundamental na trama. Nota 8 Rachel Dodson(Katie Holmes)-Com esse filme,Katie provou que é uma boa atriz.A sua atuação é cativante.Ela faz par romântico com Bale,e participa ,ao lado do Homem Morcego, de uma cena fantástica com o Batmóvel. Nota 8,5 Henri Ducard(Liam Neeson)-Ducard é um personagem magnífico,e é responsável direto,por Bruce ter se tornado Batman.As lições dadas por ele são lições para toda uma vida e seu personagem no filme,ainda esconde grandes surpresas. Nota 9 Dr. Jonathan Crane/Espantalho(Cillian Murphy)- Excelente vilão,é responsável por cenas de muita ação no longa,mas não é o vilão central da trama.Cillian está de parabéns,ele realmente parace um louco no filme. Nota 8 James Gordon(Gary Oldman)-Esse sim,foi o personagem no qual eu mais me empolguei e fiquei satisfeito.Gary está perfeito(e idêntico) como o sargente James Gordon,que além de ser ótimo policial,é grande amigo de Batman.Para mim,o melhor do filme.A forma como ele conduz seus diálogos com o morcego é excelente.E o último diálogo então,me fez delirar. Nota 10. Bom estão ai as minhas impressões.Agora espere a chegada do filme,e vá assistir,pois recomendo com todas as forças.Abraços &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &nbs p; &n bsp; Michael Lowe begins38503.6403125 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members adam_jones_1 Posted May 31, 2005 Members Report Share Posted May 31, 2005 <h1>Batman Begins:O Filme de 2005</h1> <h2>O editor da MovieX' date=' Michael Lowe assisti ao filme do Cavaleiro da Noite<span style="font-size: 14pt;"> e relata em primeira mão,as suas impressões.<o:p></o:p></span></h2> <p ="Msonormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt;"><span style=""> &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; &n bsp; </span></span>Quinta Feira,26 de maio de 2005.Lá estava eu,saindo da sala de exibição de Batman Begins.Calma!Não foi uma estréia antecipada.E sim uma sessão exclusiva para alguns críticos e editores. <p ="Msonormal">Bem, simplesmente o que posso dizer,é que Batman Begins é disparado,não só o melhor filme do ano(sim,melhor que Star Wars e Cruzada),mas também a melhor adaptação de quadrinhos já feita.Você pode achar que estou louco,mas não estou,estou muito bem por sinal.E para mostrar que não cometi um equívoco com essas afirmações,vou falar um pouco do filme. <p ="Msonormal">Entrei na sala de exibição,sentei,comprei uma pipoca e esperei pelo filme.As luzes se apagam,e começo a sentir aquele frio na barriga.De repente o símbolo prateado da Warner Bros surgi,seguido pelo novo símbolo da DC Comics, e à partir daí,a grande aventura começa. <p ="Msonormal">Os primeiros minutos do filme enfocam muito a família Wayne e Alfred,juntamente com a ainda garota Rachel.Mas conforme o tempo passa,começamos a ver grandes acontecimentos,que farão com que os fãs comecem a se animar para o filme,como o assassinato de Thomas e Martha Wayne,a confusão na cabeça de Bruce,e sua decisão de viajar pelo mundo.Nos minutos seguintes,vemos todo o sofrimento de Bruce,o seu treinamento e conhecemos Henri Ducard e Ra’s Al Ghul(Não irei falar desse personagem,por ordem dos executivos da Warner) , personagens de Liam Neeson e Ken Watanabe.Passada,mais ou menos uma hora de filme,Bruce retorna para Gotham,e aí que a coisa esquenta.Não vou detalhar muito essa parte para não estragar,mas garanto a vocês,que Tim Burton e Joel Schumacher caíram no esquecimento.É outro clima,o filme é denso,no entanto, movimentado,a aventura é intensa a cada minuto que se passa,e o telespectador se envolve de forma extraordinária na trama.As brigas lembram um pouco ao filme A Supremacia Bourne,mas são muito superiores ao mesmo.Posso dizer que pela primeira vez na vida,vi o verdadeiro Batman brigando nos cinemas.Bale quebra muita gente no filme.A cena dele com os ninjas é maravilhosa.Enfim,não vou detalhar mais,pois senão realmente estraga para todos vocês,sejam fãs ou não fãs.Mas é sem duvida o MELHOR FILME DO ANO. <p ="Msonormal">Abaixo um comentário rápido sobre cada personagem,e seu respectivo ator: <p ="Msonormal">Bruce Wayne/Batman(Christian Bale)- Simplesmente,o ator que melhor interpretou Bruce/Batman até hoje.Bale consegue ser playboy e extrovertido como Bruce,ao mesmo tempo que,triste e abatido como Batman.Nota 10 para ele <p ="Msonormal">Alfred Pennyworth(Michael Caine)-Não é a toa que Caine é um Sir.Atuação fantástica,digna de um Oscar de ator coadjuvante,no papel do fiel mordomo e amigo de Bruce Wayne.A cena do incêndio da mansão Wayne,mostra como Caine é competente.Sua atuação nessa cena é magnífica,e os diálogos então...<span style=""> </span>Nota 9,5 <p ="Msonormal">Lucios Fox(Morgan Freeman)-Essa para mim,foi uma das melhores atuações de<span style=""> </span>Freeman.Não há muito complexo no seu personagem,mas ele tem um papel fundamental na trama. <span style="" lang="ES-TRAD">Nota 8<o:p></o:p></span> <p ="MsoText">Rachel Dodson(Katie Holmes)-<span style="font-weight: normal;">Com esse filme,Katie provou que é uma boa atriz.A sua atuação é cativante.Ela faz<span style=""> </span>par romântico com Bale,e participa ,ao lado do Homem Morcego, de uma cena fantástica com o Batmóvel.<span style=""> </span>Nota 8,5<o:p></o:p></span> <p ="Msonormal">Henri Ducard(Liam Neeson)-Ducard é um personagem magnífico,e é responsável direto,por Bruce ter se tornado Batman.As lições dadas por ele são lições para toda uma vida e seu personagem no filme,ainda esconde grandes surpresas.<span style=""> </span>Nota 9 <p ="Msonormal">Dr. Jonathan Crane/Espantalho(Cillian Murphy)- Excelente vilão,é responsável por cenas de muita ação no longa,mas não é o vilão central da trama.Cillian está de parabéns,ele realmente parace um louco no filme.<span style=""> </span>Nota 8 <p ="Msonormal">James Gordon(Gary Oldman)-Esse sim,foi o personagem no qual eu mais me empolguei e fiquei satisfeito.Gary está perfeito(e idêntico) como o sargente James Gordon,que além de ser ótimo policial,é grande amigo de Batman.Para mim,o melhor do filme.A forma como ele conduz seus diálogos com o morcego é excelente.E o último diálogo então,me fez delirar.<span style=""> </span>Nota<spa n style=""> </span>10. <p ="Msonormal">Bom estão ai as minhas impressões.Agora espere a chegada do filme,e vá assistir,pois recomendo com todas as forças.Abraços <p ="Msonormal"><span style=""> &nbs p; &n bsp; &nbs p; </span><span style=""> &nbs p; &n bsp; </span>Michael Lowe [/quote'] bom demais pra ser verdade. sei lá. 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