Members Administrator Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 É, e essa parceria de Pfeiffer com Frears deu origem a uma pérola marcante, Ligações Perigosas. Acho que pode vir algo de bom. Acho que seria agradável ver Goldblum indicado, ele é um ótimo ator e não vem recebendo a atenção que merece (ainda mais quando Sean Penn tem a chance de ser indicado pela milionésima vez). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tiago Ribeiro Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 E ainda tem o Richard Jenkins que é ator de filme independente mais cotado no momento e também luta por uma vaguinha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beckin Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Saiu a primeira crítica oficial de Doubt, pela VARIETY: http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117...goryid=31&cs=1 Gostaram bastante do filme, elogiaram o Hoffman e a Adams mas adoraram mesmo foi a Viola Davis. Agora... a parte interessante, não gostaram da atuação de Streep. Tem aliás um paragrafo inteiro criticando a sua composição da personagem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ronny Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Australia foi visto. Baz's AUSTRALIA test screens where TITANIC had it's first screening! Same results? Let's see... hello from the sin-twities. Just got back from our lovely Mall of America-n idiots' date=' where i saw a new movie that isn't out yet and not coming out even this summer I don't think. We got passes handed out on Saturday for a free film on sunday, but it didn't say what it was. I thought maybe it was for Handcock, but it wasn't, it was a movie about Australia that I never heard of. It wasn't what I expected by we were there so we stayed and guess what....... It was actually really cool. i had to sign some 6 paragraph legal bullshit but i will not be stopped! They said in the beginning that it wasn't finished , and you could see where there were some paintings in it and some computer looking drawn stuff that moved that I assume is all special effects that weren't in the film. And some of the music was from gone wth the wind (no shit), so that couldn't be it im sure, but anyway it didn't matter really to the expierence of the movie, which as i said, was really special. For sure, the first words that will come out about this film are "old school" or "they don't make em like this anymore", but they do-- and this is it . And people are going to dig it because its not like anything I can think of ive seen in a long time. It's a big, epic, love story set in Australia in WW2 when the japs attacked the country (I guess), but that is really more about this black native kid that gets taken away by the government and the fight to get him back. Anyway, I had not heard anything about the movie so I came into this pretty blank. It stars Nicole Kidman as an uptight British Lady and Hugh Jackman as a rugged horseman so mysterious and solitary he goes solely by the name The Drover. There is A LOT of plot so if you don't care, skip this, but the story is pretty rich . Lady Ashley comes from england to see her husband in Australia and has to be escorted from the main town area to their cattle ranch by Drover, who is like the classic Eastwood character; clearly an honorable soul but refuses to live by anyones rules and annoyed that he has to cart around this prissy city chick. They are instantly at each other's throats, her thinking he's a crass, unwashed heathen (he kinda is) and him thinking she's a haughty bitch (she definitely is). But things change when they get to their destination. her husband's been murdered and a big time cattle man is stealing her cattle and her ranch is nearly bankrupt. Here's where they meet the aboriginal boy on the land who she kind of falls in love with and becomes a mother figure to. So lady ashley and the drover and the little kid and his aunt (?) plus the drovers 2 friends have to drive a heard of cattle across some desert that's never been crossed to the town in order to save her ranch. This is actually much more interesting and cool than it sounds. And not to be bitchy (as I said some of the effects were not done yet), but there is a stampede scene in the middle of the cattle drive that was SOOOOO unfinished it was laughable, in fact I heard some chuckles rising up around me. But whatever, I would have been pissed if it weren't free. Cinematography is really amazing and every scene of the film looks like a painting. Its truly beautiful to look at. as you might expect the tension between lady ashley and the drover begins to melt away and they start to fall for each other. Kidman is perfect for this part and shes really great in it. It's very easy to buy her as stuck-up and snooty at the start, but she does open up to us and makes you care about her and her struggle. it doesnt hurt that she stands up for the aboriginals (who are the australian version of black people in the 1950s) against the asshole white guys who work for the bigtime cattle baron. As for Hugh Jackman, i only know him from being Wolverine but he has a real Clark Gable/Clint Eastwood vibe going on . He obviously has the physicality and physique to pull off this rugged Marlboro Man character, but it turns out its his emotion and his charm that really get you. He feels like a real movie star movie star in it.. But The little kid playing the aborigine boy is the one who steals the movie and actually gives a great performance which is rare for a kid actor .. So they successfully get their cattle to the town and theres a big celebration where hugh gets all cleaned up in a white tux and him and lady ashley and the kid get to go back to faraway downs and live happily ever after like a married couple with a kid. you think this is the happy ending of the movie, (and after 2 hours it sure felt like the end) but you'd be wrong., just as they are on the brink of living happily ever after, the Japanese attack Australia (it's 1940 something and World War II is raging). Somewhere around this point I started to get a little lost all of a sudden its an action movie ala pearl harbor. Weird transition . I wont give away the real ending but lets just say its not something your necessarily prepared for. its incredibly emotional and everyone around me was crying. this is a serious epic film . you are in it from the beginning to the end. i found myself sincerely caring about all the characters, meaning mostly hugh and nicole and the little boy. all in all, i was incredibly pleased with this experience and it was a very pleasant surprise . i felt actually quite priviledged that i got to see this movie so long before it actually comes out. its going to be a major to-do when it finally hits theaters. call me what you will but i am the weapon[/quote'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacGruber Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Duas coisas que eu não esperava ouvir tão cedo: "Não gostaram da atuação da Streep." "Australia foi visto." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Não li tudo, revela muito da trama, bom que alguém do público gostou, legal. Falam mal da Streep?Será?É o Oscar duplo da Kate mesmo esse ano?;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tiago Ribeiro Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Fiquei curioso. Streep ruim, ainda por cima com um papel desses, difícil de acreditar, difícil mesmo. Tiago Ribeiro2008-11-06 21:42:25 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Pois é, impossível ela estar "ruim", agora se não gostaram da personagem, outra história. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tiago Ribeiro Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Estranho, porque todos que viram exibições de Doubt até agora elogiaram principalmente a Meryl Streep. Eu particularmente duvido que ela possa ter feito uma composição falha, mas é esperar pra ver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 É uma crítica só, apesar da importância da Variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tiago Ribeiro Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Concordo, por isso mesmo que eu não acredito nessa opinião da Variety. É apenas um crítico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thalesgn Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Variety, Meryl Streep te despreza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FeCamargo Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Beyoncé é Etta James. Contagem regressiva até o pire-paque do Felipe. Pai nosso que estais no céu... e desde quando isso é atriz. Atrizes de verdade, negras, devem estar se matando, como Regina King, Sophie Okonedo entre tantas outras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 http://www.variety.com/review/VE1117938945.html?categoryid=31&cs=1 Link certo da Variety, o outro não ia direto. Ele compara a personagem da peça com a Streep, e não endosso esse tipo de comparação numa crítica de um filme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FeCamargo Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Eu estou surpreso com a crítica da Variety. Streep sendo criticada... e por esse papel... Vamos esperar... mais críticas vão sair. As outras três performances, parecem mais sólidas nas indicações. Quanto a Austrália, o ponto é. A Academia irá cair de amores por algo "antigo" mas com aparente qualidade? Vamos esperar. O fato que pode vir a se tornar é, não descartemos o filme. Quanto a matéria de Winslet, no começo acreditava piamente na divisão de votos, mas com a confirmação de The Reader, como coadjuvante e Revolutionary Road como principal, corrobadas pelas críticas que saíram, somadas ao hype gigantesco que Winslet está esse ano, acho difícil a AMPAS deixá-la de fora, e agora, com uma possível queda de Streep, um fato histórico pode estar próximo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Queda da Streep?Menos Fe!;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacGruber Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 HEATH MERECE 1 OSCAR! A KATE MERECE 2!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FeCamargo Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Queda da Streep?Menos Fe!;D Leia de novo! Por isso eu disse, vamos esperar! .... Mudando de assunto: Começam boates dizendo que haverá mudanças em Frost/Nixon, colocando Michael Sheen como coadjuvante na campanha, angariando assim mais indicações ao filme. O boato surgiu pelo blog de Tom O'Neil e vem ganhando força. Acredito que isso possa acontecer também. FeCamargo2008-11-06 22:25:52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thalesgn Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 É, essa estratégia deu muito certo com a Cate Blanchett ano passado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members texer Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Deu certo com a Blanchett e com a Julianne Moore em 2002. A crítica a atuação da Streep pela Variety naum significa nada mesmo, a gente tem q esperar por outras reações para tirar um veredito. Esta "crítica" de test-screening de Austrália é bem antiga... Acho que foi publicada no Ain't Cool News há alguns meses atrás... texer2008-11-06 22:23:06 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pantalaimon Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Mentira texer, sério?¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬¬.Desisto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FeCamargo Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Hum, bom saber, vamos aguardar uma mais real e atual então. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members texer Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Acho q é de dois meses atrás. Na verdade tiveram dois test-screenings de Austrália, um no começo do ano e outro por agora(se naum me engano em Setembro) na Austrália. Ambas foram publicadas no Ain't cool news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MacGruber Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Tomara que Australia fique pronto ainda esse mês. Além dos críticos, estou curioso pra ver como o filme se sai nas bilheterias. Sobre uma vitória dupla da Winslet, ela tem uma certa vantagem em relação a Blanchett e a Moore: tanto RR e quanto The Reader podem ser indicados a melhor filme, o primeiro está entre os favoritos e o outro tem o mesmo potencial. Eu acredito. BrnoSoares2008-11-06 22:44:30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ronny Posted November 6, 2008 Members Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Se o filme já estava tão bem acabado em junho, apesar da tal mudança estranha no segundo ato, então acredito que Baz consiga finalizar Australia satisfatoriamente. E como assim a crítica de Todd McCarthy "não é nada"? Esse homem, e o veículo para o qual escreve, tem peso. E muito. Mas claro, não é determinante. Mas é influente. O problema será se os demais reviews corroborarem sua crítica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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