Members RaH!!! Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Tai, gostei do fan-art Cidra, valeu por ter postado pra gente... Ficou muito interessante o resultado, se o Nolan seguir essa caminho e se inspirar em Darkman (como já foi citado aqui) chegaremos a um duas-caras muito bem feito fisicamente. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alexander Bell Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Esse é o tipo de queimadura por ácido mais realista. Lembra um pouco o Freddy Krueger, mas sem o aspecto de hamburguer queimado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 [WWC] ‘DARK KNIGHT’ FOOTAGE MAKES ITS DEBUT A full report on the first look at Christopher Nolan’s Batman sequel including the Joker, the Batpod and…Two Face? By Kiel Phegley Posted August 11, 2007 8:40 PM Minutes ago, the capacity crowd at Wizard World Chicago was treated to the first look at “The Dark Knight” – the much anticipated sequel to fan favorite “Batman Begins.” With actors Christian Bale, Gary Oldman and Aaron Eckhart on hand along with Nolan and screenwriters Jonah Nolan and David Goyer, DC Publisher Paul Levitz led the crowd through a spirited and secretive Q&A before getting to a sneak peek at the Dark Knight’s most recent on-screen battle with his arch nemesis, The Joker. Fans were only allowed to see it once, and while it might be some time before the footage will be released to theaters across America, Wizard Universe was on hand to witness the action and give a full report. Thefootage started with a silhouette of a dark figure in front of one of Batman’s armored vehicles before quickly cutting to Bruce Wayne and Alfred delivering the brief lines heard in the “Dark Knight” teaser trailer. “Some people just want to watch the world burn,” advises Alfred before the camera jumps to Batman in action on the Batpod, the new iteration of his motorcycle. The action built up as the Joker was seen in full for the first time with a mess of white face, smeared red lipstick and sweaty, straggly green hair. Apparently, the clown prince of crime gets arrested at one point in the film, as the montage presented Jim Gordon (complete in SWAT gear) at the Joker’s booking, saying, "no prints, no ID, custom clothes, no tags.” The clown smiles with what appears to be blood over his face from the inside of an interrogation room. Checking back in with Bruce Wayne, the billionaire playboy has a brief scene with Eckhart’s Harvey Dent where he says “Rachel’s told me everything about you.” “I truly hope not,” responds Wayne. The footage sped up at that point into an intense montage of action, featuring the following clips: - The new batsuit rising up from a trap door in the ground and held in a chain metal case. - Rachel Dawes (played by Maggie Gyllenhaal) close to an unidentified man either kissing him or being threatened by him as the camera rotates around them. - The Joker and Batman battling in close quarters (possibly a hospital room). Batman throws Joker over a table and crashing into the ground while the clown smiles at him. It should be noted that the Joker was done up in his signature purple suit. - Plenty of big, bold Batmobile action including a shot where the tank-like car drives through a wall of flame. In fact, flames were pretty much everywhere in the footage as it appears Joker does actually make the world burn. - There is also a shot of a somewhat grim-faced Joker walking across a city street mercilessly firing a machine gun as well as a television close-up of the Joker laughing hysterically. - Two major additions to the speculation that Two Face will appear in the film came in the form of a single shot of a spinning 50 cent piece and the final image: after the action montage has slowed down, the camera cuts to a bartender looking at Harvey Dent, whose only onscreen presence is his left shoulder and a bit of a reddish-purple scarred neck. “Dent! I thought you were dead!” the man gasps, to which Harvey replies, “Half.” -------------------------------------------------------- The footage was absolutely amazing, I just returned home. It was an incredible day. Firstly: very nice to meet Riskproductions, Typeorocks and Gregchick. It made the day much more bearable. Now to the good stuff: The panel was fantastic. David Goyer, Jonah Nolan, Chris Nolan, Christian Bale, Aaron Eckhart and Gary Oldman. Oldman received a hero's welcome that was only dwarfed by Bale's. Bale was pretty stunned by the amazingly loud and prolonged applause at his arrival. The entire cast was very humble and expressed genuine enthusiasm at being there. On Eckhart's entrance he put his hand up to his face briefly, covering half....a clear nod to the future =) The footage itself was as fantastic as it sounded in the description. Heath Ledger moving around as the Joker was absolutely freaky and there were several shots of him just sitting and walking...looking absolutely creepy. Him sitting reminded me of Arkham Asylum creepiness, and him walking was: if I saw that guy walking towards me I'd go screaming the other way. Batman footage was brief but awesome. One of the highlights for me was definitely Batman seeming to beat the crap out of the Joker, flipping him through a table, then a cut to the Joker's laughing face as he is pummelled. Pure awesomeness. And the ending had the room roaring. -------------------------------------------------------------- ust got back from the tdk ww panel, and the footage definitely did not disappoint. dent's voice at the end was definitely not his normal voice, but in a two-face tone that seemed really gruff/badass. i dont think anyone would have been able to sneak actual footage, but maybe audio. they had about maybe 10 guys in suits with night vision goggles, and right before they showed the clip nolan himself said he was very hesitant to show us the clip cuz he doesn't like showing previews. also it was the first time any of the actors had seen the footage, so out of respect for nolan and the cast, i think there was a major guilt trip for anyone trying to sneak any type of recording of the clip. also, the screen wasn't very large, so unless u were in the first few rows it would probably be very indiscernible. also the audio was really frakking loud, to the point where it was being distorted. so to anyone who actually got a recording, u've got guts. but all in all the clip was absolutely amazing. oh and they did show the truck flip and the suv/truck smashing into the falling/burning helicopter which was really sweet. they also showed batman riding up on the batpod from lower wacker which was a nice shot. felipef2007-08-11 22:33:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericordioso ======================================== Foi atrasado a apresentação em chicago. Tambem falaram que vão fazer de tudo para que só os 1200 que estarão la tenham visualmente as coisas, vai ter uma hiper segurança contra tudo que é eletronico, nao querem nada no youtube , foi isso que disse um dos diretores da warner. Agora tem que esperar os espertinhos nos tragam alguns videos e fotos. Fiquem com Deuskeduardo2007-08-11 22:43:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Presa atenção que a cenas estão aí em cima. Mais comentários das cenas: It was extremely gritty, setting just a fantastic mood the world that Batman Begins created. There was nothing at all cheerful about what was shown, and it seemed that the world was in chaos. Another thing I forgot to mention was the footage of the Joker laughing hysterically in black and white as though shot by a home video camera. Complete psycho-manic moment. Very effective... it really was just awesome. Joker in a cell looking like he'd rip your head off if you came close...awesomeness -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BOF: On Saturday, August 10, 2007, THE DARK KNIGHT crew made an hour long appearance at Wizard World Chicago. Representing TDK was David Goyer (story), Jonah Nolan (script), Chris Nolan (director), Christian Bale (The Batman), Aaron Eckhart (Harvey Dent), and Gary Oldman (Jim Gordon). The panel was moderated by DC head honcho, Paul Levitz. Also attending, but not on the panel, was producers Emma Thomas and Charles Roven. The panel was held in a very large ballroom with several hundred Bat-fans packed to the gills. To get in, you had to pick up a wristband the morning of the event at the DC Comics area at the convention. One also received a very cool T-shirt with the TDK logo on front and “IN THEATERS JULY 2008” underneath. When hit with a fluorescent light, you’re able to see it plastered with “HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!” Levitz introduced the panelists one by one and each received an enthusiastic round of applause -- especially Chris Nolan, Christian Bale, and Gary Oldman. Levitz made some general statements ending by saying that giving one of the DC characters to a filmmaker is like having your child adopted -- you want the best for them and in good hands. He then said that he’s never been more honored to work with someone like he has been able to with Chris Nolan. At that point, each of the panel members made some general statements about the film and how glad they were to be in Chicago at Wizard World, etc, etc. etc. Here are a few misc. comments from the guys: * Jonah Nolan let everyone know that he grew up a Batman fan and was raised in Chicago. * Bale said that it’s an honor to reprise the role of the most badass superhero there is. * Eckhart he’s glad to be part of Batman and everyone will be pleased with what’s going on. * Bale said that he didn’t grow up a Batman fan and that his only exposure to the character was the Adam West TV show. But he read Frank Miller’s YEAR ONE and said to himself, “Why in the HELL hasn’t anyone made THIS Batman [into a film] before?” He now loves the character and it is evident. * Chris Nolan again mentioned the first two Joker stories in BATMAN #1 as having a very strong influence on the story and how The Joker is portrayed. He also said that when deciding to use The Joker, he and David Goyer had to think about how this character would exist -- what would he be like -- in the BEGINS universe. How does he “fit?” * Jonah Nolan says that he now is having a hard time “…getting The Joker out of my head.” * Chris guaranteed that we’re going to see more of “The Dark Knight Detective” in TDK. * David Goyer said that he was worried about not topping BATMAN BEGSIN, but simply coming close. But he worries no more, “My jaw is dropping with this one.” * And yet again, every damn person talked about “The Heath-Joker.” The most commonly used phrase to describe his work on this film: “Brilliant.” After the panel comments and a brief Q&A session with fans, about 3 minutes of footage was screened for the audience. My initial reaction? TDK is really dark. We got to see… The Batmobile and the Batpod in action… The first meeting between Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent… A cool shot of The Batman on top of a building scanning the city… Several brief shots of Heath Ledger as The Joker -- and he’s one sick and sadistic-looking bastard… The Joker in a jail cell… The Joker blasting away with a machine gun… The Batman kicking The Joker’s ass… And a guy asking Harvey (who we only see from behind), “Dent? I thought you were dead?” And Harvey responds, “Half.” All in all, some great stuff that didn’t reveal a damn thing -- except confirm to me that THE DARK KNIGHT is going to kick some major arse next summer! ------------------------------------------------------- in every shot they showed of the joker, his grin was absolutelyflawless. u definitely will not be disappointed. in one clip it looked like he had just gotten the crap beat out of him and he was on the floor laughing and ledger pulled it off brilliantly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The highlight of the panel for everyone was the footage shown at the end of the panel. It was a highlight for the actors as well, Chris Nolan pointed out, because they hadn't seen the footage before. In fact, everyone from the stage came down into the audience to watch it with us. "Christian -- sit over here!" one fan yelled. http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=124975 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- felipef2007-08-11 22:48:46 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericordioso ======================================= Amigo felipef, eu quis dizer cenas de verdade, as que eles viram la.Certamente alguem conseguiu furar o bloqueio e filmar e fotografar alguma coisa la de dentro. Mais estas informações do batman on film e as outras que vc colocou, não me animam ,mesmo sendo um hiper defensor do nolan e do beggins.Não ouvi citações sobre o espantalho, sal moroni, o que acontece em gotham, eles estão focando muito em "batman x coringa" isso pode terminar como "superman x lexluthor" e ser um fracasso. E as noticias tambem são sarcasticas: como o nolan dizer que batman#1 influenciou muito e tal, claro, ja em beggins quando gordon anuncia um criminoso teatral que tem 2 homicidios é ladrão e deixa uma carta de baralho(coringa) como cartão de visitas é esta a historia do batman #1, ele ta dizendo que 2 + 2 são 4. Não tão mostrando nada de mais até agora é muito esconde esconde. E ja ta chateando esse supermarkting ao coringa, e todo mundo dizendo que o heath ledger é fantastico e tal, isto esta fugindo da nova franquia.Se eles fizerem o coringa aparecer como no filme de 89, ele ja estarão cavando seu propio buraco pra gente colocar o caixão depois, porque nunca o heath ledger vai vencer o jack nicolson numa atuação direta : mesmo que ele tenha sido melhor, o heath é novo, ja ouve papos em hollywood que ele era peixada , que aquela indicação ao oscar não foi merecida e que varios atores ja fizeram atuações memoráveis e nunca foram indicados e etc, ja existe uma certa "pninima" tambem com ele. O coringa tem que fazer e aparecer como ras al gul no beggins e o filme tem que ser focado no batman e não no coringa, ou focado no nada como foi aranha 3 e piratas do caribe 3, simplesmente vai rolando filme até acabar. O filme tem que ter um roteiro bom como beggins. As coisas na minha visão não estão indo bem. Fiquem com Deus Fiquem com Deuskeduardo2007-08-11 23:03:10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Continuando: The trailer begins ominously, with a shadow lurking over The Tumbler, or what looked to be the remains of The Tumbler (the sound of "cracking", as if from a fire or explosion, could be heard, but faintly). It then cut to Bruce and Alfred in a dimly-lit room overlooking a massive city (the penthouse suite?), exchanging dialouge almost directly lifted from the teaser trailer (as also can be read in my signature). The camera closes in tightly on Alfred, as he mutters, quietly, "Some men just want to watch the world burn", and an action montage begins. I am going to try and describe what happens next as best to my ability, because it happened all very fast. The next scene showed Batman riding the Batpod in what appeared to be Lower Wacker (which I remember seeing filming only weeks ago, which was weird). Now, the next clip was very brief, but it appeared to be The Joker entering an apartment-like area (the Wayne penthouse?) with clown-faced thugs behind him. The Joker was wearing purple, and had his arms extended almost like he was reaching for the sky. The next clip had Jim Gordon, complete in SWAT gear, muttering some lines to an officer about no prints, no ID, etc etc. The next shot, which was utterly cool, was The Joker locked in an interrogation room, blood smeared on his face, his eyes appearing sunken and his expression that of almost like taunting. The next scene has Bruce Wayne and Harvey Dent together, in what appeared to be a municipal building, and Dent saying something along the lines of "Rachel's told me everything about you" and Wayne mutters, quietly, "I truly hope not", under his breath. It then gets a bit chaotic, and we get flashes of the new Batsuit inside a trapped closet of sorts, rising from the ground in Wayne's Penthouse suite, The Joker pressing a knife against Rachel Dawes's face (as seen in the photo recently released) with the camera pressing hard with close-ups of The Joker, eyes closed, leaning in as the knife cuts Rachel's face only a tiny bit. It then cut to Batman and The Joker fighting intensely in a closed-off room, a derelict hospital of sorts, as Batman throws The Joker right smack into a table. Lots of short snippets of The Batmobile racing down streets, including a quick bit where The Batmobile slams directly into a wall covered in fire. The two shots of the action montage had The Joker, appearing to be quite alone, walking on an open street, firing a machine gun mercilessly and then a quick flash of The Joker laughing maniacally, as seen from the perspective of a news camera, before it appears to fall and smash on the ground, the screen going all fritzy and then dark. Now, the very last scene, had the creaking sound of a door opening. A barman serves what looks like a police officer (Flass?) some drinks. Footsteps walk on the ground. The barman and police officer don't notice this person, and the camera only gives obscure shots. The barman tilts his head and we get a very eerie and still shot of Dent sitting in a booth, his left side only visible, and what appeared to be purple discoloration on his neck. The barman slightly gasps and says, "Dent! I thought you were dead!" and Dent merely mutters..."Half". Cut to black. felipef2007-08-11 23:12:20 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericordioso ==================================== " E não há filme de Batman com o Coringa nele que um dos pontos altos, se não o mais, seja o conflito entre ambos. " Discordo amigo felipef, de 1939 até hoje ja teve 7 filmes do batman: dois na decada de 40(em formas de cinessérie), o filme de 66, e os 4 da franquia burton/shumacher, destes só em 2 o coringa aparece , no de 66 e no de 89.No de 66 o filme foi bizarro e o foco não foi batman contra coringa e sim batman contra "vilões" que eram os 4 (coringa,pinguim,charada e mulher gato) foi um fracasso.O outro foi o de 89, só batman x coringa(então um unico filme com confronto direto batman vs coringa) e ja foi e pronto, não foi um fracasso mais tambem conta com o primeiro filme do heroi em forma de blockbuster , igual homen-aranha 1.Em 89 os blockbuster estavam no inicio, hoje ta todo mundo cheio destes filmes cheios de explosões ,pessoas fugindo no final e um mega vilão sendo combatido por um ou mais herois, para as épocas antigas não, mais hoje sim. Veja quarteto fantastico 1 e 2 , nada mais foi do que isto , e o que a critica disse ? que era um filme para criança nada serio, o que é verdade.Veja "guerra dos mundos", um filme que seria classico a 30 anos atras, mais spielberg o fez exatamente como se fosse a 30 anos atras e ja ta todo mundo cheio de "ets que invandem a terra para dominar o planeta e alguem vai la e consegue salvar o planeta sem querer", e guerra dos mundos foi um fracasso. Esse eterno confronto "mocinhoXvilão" tem de ser mudado , um dos fracassos do superman returns é justamente esse confronto "superman x lex lutor" , esse confronto do "bem contra o mal" , as pessoas não caem mais nessa, quem é bem e quem é mal no mundo ? ninguem sabe, quanto mais num filme .Beggins deixa isto claro, quando batman não salva ras al gul, ali é a historia do batman e ponto e não a historia de um heroi bonzinho e de um mega vilão. A franquia do batman, como ja dissemos aqui neste forum ja era para estar fora do cinema a muito tempo, mais ai fizeram beggins com uma nova proposta, sem mega efeitos especiais, um filme focado no heroi apenas, ras e espantalho são apenas coadjuvantes de luxo. Se em the dark knight, o coringa for mais do que um coadjuvante de luxo, o filme vai cair nos mesmo filmes que tem por ai, e pode apostar que vai ser medio de bilheteria e fraco na critica e ai o batman não volta pro cinema até o bin laden destruir os EUA e la se criar um novo país , se o bin laden não conseguir, o batman não volta. Eu estou sentindo que eles estão fugindo da proposta do primeiro filme, se isto ocorrer, podem escrever: a franquia vai ser um fracasso, a carreira do nolan e do bale ficarão manchadas ( a do morgan freeman, gary oldman não, nem do heath que vai ser uma "vitima" de uma má produção como no caso disseram do george clonney em batman e robin, e o que não é verdade), mais as carreiras brilhantes ate aqui do nolan e do bale vão ficar sim manchadas. Fiquem com Deuskeduardo2007-08-11 23:23:08 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericordioso ====================================== A rachel ainda ta fazendo o bruce de corno, como o nolan vai explicar isto pro publico ? aquela garota do primeiro filme não faria isto . É e no final não ficamos sabendo de nada mesmo de novo,o coringa é uma incógnita, o roteiro, os outros vilões e etc. Fiquem com Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaH!!! Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Keduardo, vc exagera demais..dá um tempo E q saudades da Balehead, toda a vez q ela mandava uma notica em inglês ela dava uma traduzida básica para os leigos (ou seja, os RaH!!!´s da vida) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 11, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 11, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericodioso ================================= Abaixo tem um video do momento em que anunciaram o painel la em chicago : Vamos ver agora o pessoal que conseguiu filmar e fotagrafar as coisas la de dentro,. Fique com Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V.B.Felipe Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Todas as notícias são extremamente animadoras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaH!!! Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Eu acho uma palhaçada esse segredo todo em torno de TDK....se o filme fosse um Star Wars da vida q tem milhões de fãs q faltam morrer por alguma informação até valeria esse mistério pq iria gerar mais e mais propaganda e divulgação, mas se trtando de um filme do Batman não entendo o pq desse mistério? Afinal TDK é uma continuação e não um primeiro filme do Batman. E volto a dizer, na minha opinião é bobagem por parte da DC/Warner esse mistério..filmes como Transformer e Ironman mostraram o mais importante meses antes da estréia dos seus respectivos filmes e no caso do Tranformer não atrapalhou em nada a bilheteria... Mas enfim, cada um escolhe o tipo de marketing e divulgação q acha mais necessário...quem sou eu pra falar alguma coisa sobre isso Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente, O Misericordioso ======================================= Amigo rah, você não esta perdendo nada, simplesmente porque não tem nada revelado ! Só ta falando o que a gente ja sabe: tem umas cenas de ação do coringa, tão dizendo que o coringa é muito bom,que o batman vai ser mais detetive, estão descrevendo uma cena onde o coringa briga com o batman,descreve pequenas cenas do batman andando de moto e de carro, o hervey dent é ferido e responde que esta "parcialmente ferido" ,vejo isto como uma alusão a hora em que ele recebe o ácido ou o que vão jogar nele la no filme , o hervey dent diz que a batman que rachel contou tudo pra ele(hervey) sobre o batman, e o batman diz : espero que não tenha dito tudo, descreve a rachel beijando outra pessoa que não é o bruce, essas coisas que não levam ninguem a lugar nenhum. E também os atores e direção foram dar reveladoras entrevistas, tava la cristopher nolan, o bale, o gary oldman, o levitz(produtor),Aaron Eckhart, jonatan nolan e o goyer, todo mundo tomando uns drinks e comendo um salgados, vou resumir interpretando aqui o que eles falaram : PAUL LEVITZ: É uma honrra trabalhar com esses caras ,o filme ta ficando muito bom. AARON ECKHART: É uma honrra trabalhar com esses caras, bale, oldman só ator bom. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Eu amo chicago, eu amo estar aqui, e o filme ta uma beleza..CHRISTIAN BALE: Os filmes do cristopher nolan são fantasticos, é uma honrra ser o batman novamente. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN(de novo retribuindo): O trabalho do bale é excepcional tambem... GARY OLDMAN:Quando se tem um bom roteiro , não se tem trabalho para fazer o papel e neste filme é este o caso.Tudo uma belezaJONATAN NOLAN: Eu pesquisei tanto sobre o coringa que ele não sai mais da minha cabeça, o filme ta otimo.David goyer: olha rapaz o coringa do jack nicolson era meio brincalhão e a gente fez um coringa mais serio você sabe... (obs: TODO MUNDO JA SABE DISSO GOYER !) Agora traduz tudo ao pé da letra , interpreta e vê se não é isso dai que eles tão falando, ou seja: estão falando nada,um elogiando o outro, 2+2 são 4, tão falando bem do filme. Tão fazendo jogo duro. =================== OBS: PRA TERMINAR UMA DO NOLAN, DESTA VEZ TRADUZIDO DIRETO SEM INTERPRETAÇÃO : CRISTOPHER NOLAN : O que Heath ledger está fazendo é indescritivel. É brilhante. O Heath ledger se fixou com isto. OLHA ESSE PAPO DE CONFRONTO DIRETO COM O JACK NICOLSON QUE A WARNER TA QUERENDO NÃO VAI DAR CERTO EM... Fiquem com Deuskeduardo2007-08-12 06:31:43 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Continuando com o Q&A completo: PAUL LEVITZ: Aaron, would you like to say a word…or two? [Audience applauds] AARON ECKHART: So that’s how it’s gonna be now, huh? [Audience laughs] I just want to say thank you for letting me be a part of this amazing tradition. It’s been such a pleasure to be working with Gary, Christian, Chris and the rest of this incredible cast and crew. You guys are all going to be very pleased. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: I just want to say how excited we are to be back here at Wizard World Chicago again. The last time we were here, we were only three weeks into the shooting schedule. I love Chicago, it’s just an incredible place architecturally and the town is great. This time we wanted to expand the scope of the shooting and wanted to include real buildings, real streets and more location shooting. You wouldn’t believe how many people in Chicago come up to me and thank me for bringing this film to life. QUESTION: What’s the best part about working together again? CHRISTIAN BALE: It’s like how any relationship progresses. There’s an increase in communication and trust. Chris movies are fantastic. It’s great working together again for the third time, the second time on this character. We stride purposely toward the good of the movie from the get-go. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: It’s extraordinary to work with Christian again. He has extraordinary precision, and the great thing about working with him is his ability to do a lot of the physical work and the stunts. It makes my job easier to be able make this film with someone with his extraordinary talents. CHRISTIAN BALE: It was like riding a bike. The second you put on the suit, to me, there’s only one way to play it. How different is it preparing for superheroes and supervillain roles as opposed to traditional roles? GARY OLDMAN: I think it always helps to have good material. If the script is well written, I like to think of it as my map of the world. The roles you take on have particular hurdles. There’s no particular approach you take on, whether it’s Gordon or Sid Vicious. A lot of roles I play are hard to research. But with this project there are great characters, great script and a great cast. AARON ECKHART: I cannot add to what Gary just said. It would be blasphemy and I’d be kicked out of the union. I’d like to know what you guys thought of all the viral marketing done for the movie and if you know if we can expect anything else, say, around December? [Audience laughs] JONAH NOLAN: I don’t know anything. [Audience laughs] CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: There’s nothing we can say about it. Were you guys behind it? JONAH: No. [Audience laughs] In that original teaser trailer you showed for “Batman Begins,” there was a scene where Christian said “Me!” [in a scary voice]. Why was that not in the movie? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: That scene was filmed special for the teaser trailer. We wanted to give people an idea of the movie and the story without giving away any of the story. Aaron, does something happen to your face in this film? AARON ECKHART: I don’t speak English. [Audience laughs] Gary, I read somewhere you’re considering retirement. Isn’t there any way we can convince you to stay around for a third film? GARY OLDMAN: You can’t believe what you read in those rags. Every actor has considered retirement at one time or another. Didn’t Sean Penn say 15 years ago he was going to retire? [Audience laughs] Chris, what did you do to become the great director you became since you didn’t get formal training? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Thank you. That’s very kind. All I can usefully say is I always made films growing up with our older brother Matt from Super 8 films to 16MM and up to 35MM. I’m very lucky to be doing something I love and enjoy. Chris and Jonah, when you guys have worked together in the past, like on “Memento,” you have a very distinctive style when it comes to writing. Are you using a similar style here? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: As far as the chronological style? No less than in “Batman Begins.” The challenge for us here, and this is something I spoke to David and Jonah a lot about, was more that there were lots of characters and more of an epic scope to this film. The storytelling is very much conventional drama. The challenge was in juggling a fat story. PAUL LEVITZ: I’ve noticed a similarity in style not so much in terms of how time works, but on how you treated the characters. Do you feel like as far as how the characters moved through the story that was the case? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Yeah. It was all about trying to figure out whose point of view each scene was from, whose story which part of the movie was and how you could relate to the characters. This is a question for both Mr. Bale and the writers: Will you be playing up more of the “Dark Knight Detective”/criminologist angle of Batman this time? [Audience applauds] CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: The short answer is “Yes.” The long answer is that “Batman Begins” was an origin story and the important thing was to move the story forward. In this movie, the detective stuff will help move the story along. This is for Christian. What do you find more physically demanding? Something like this or something like “The Machinist” where you had to change your physical appearance? CHRISTIAN BALE: I think those things are entirely different. This role is about moving with a power and force. “Machinist” required more mental discipline, and I was at a point where I was so weak I couldn’t have even walked across this stage. And in this one it’s essential that the character be physical. Rachel Dawes is in this film again but already served her purpose in the first film as a love interest who tells Bruce that he’s become Batman. Why bring her back? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Will she serve a real purpose again? Yes, but you have to see the movie. What are the most important aspects of the Joker that you needed to incorporate in this film? CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: We looked at it the other way around. We found a way of looking at the character and saw what role he would play in the film. The Joker card at the end of the first film created the right kind of feeling. That was the hook that got us thinking about the next one. We were looking through comics and Joker stories and we started writing the treatment before we even wrote “The Prestige.” Jonah called me and said, “Have you read the first two Joker appearances?” I had but not in a really long time. We’ve come around to something that’s eerily close to those first two appearances. DAVID GOYER: Once we established “Batman Begins,” it was one take on Batman. The Joker was a little more theatrical, a little more comedic, the way Jack Nicholson played him. We had to decide how does the Joker fit in this world? JONAH NOLAN: It was not how to get into the character of the Joker but how to get him out of my head. I spent so much time researching the Joker, I felt he was in my head. On a scale of 1 to 10, is there any interest in a Batman/Superman World’s Finest movie? DAVID GOYER: For me, after working on this project, it’s zero. JONAH NOLAN: When I was a teenage, my brother gave me a copy of The Dark Knight returns, which has a very similar scene in it. I couldn’t put a number on it. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: Creatively, I’m burned out so I have no interest. PAUL LEVITZ: What do you say, Christian? Do you want to wrestle Superman? [Audience roars] CHRISTIAN BALE: [Nods confirming he’d like to as the audience screams in excitement] What can you say about Heath Ledger’s performance thus far? GARY OLDMAN: is going to knock everyone out of the park. CHRISTOPHER NOLAN: What Heath is doing is indescribable. It’s brilliant. Heath has nailed it. felipef2007-08-12 10:26:55 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members leoJoker Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Em Nome de Deus' date='O Clemente,O Misericordioso ====================================== A rachel ainda ta fazendo o bruce de corno, como o nolan vai explicar isto pro publico ? aquela garota do primeiro filme não faria isto . É e no final não ficamos sabendo de nada mesmo de novo,o coringa é uma incógnita, o roteiro, os outros vilões e etc. Fiquem com Deus[/quote'] Cara, falar que a Rachel tá fazendo o Bruce de corno é exegero cara. No final de Begins fica bem claro que cada um vai viver sua vida e seu caminho. Normal ela ir atrás de um outro relacionamento.Lewis Lennox2007-08-12 10:38:59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted August 12, 2007 Administrators Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 E nada de vídeos neh..pois bem...ontem quando anunciaram o pailnel de TDK avisaram que celular, ipods, notes e pods em geral não seriam permitidos, devem ter dado uma geral na galera.... OLha que interessante a descrição de uma pessoa que estava lá durante a exibição: Originally Posted by Mr.Clay Theshot of Batman jumping on the Batpod was awesome, but again, way too quick. he runs on top of police cars to get to the pod and leaves a lot of dents. i get the sense that while in jail, the Joker has something else up his sleeve, and thats why Batman starts beating him. Before the fight, Batman is seen walking furiously into the interrogation room with a couple of cops following looking like they realize they should stop him, but he's effin Batman and they hesitate. I feel that Joker must have given up some kind of info, and thats why Batman busts out of the police station, running on top of cars, and hauling ass away on Batpod. The Batpod scene is almost shot for shot from the pics of Batman on the bike and Batman's full costume shot. I didnt get a good look at the suit, but his manuverability is 300% better, and that really makes Batman look organic and makes you forget the amount of armor he really has on O interessante foi no final ele dizer que não deu pra nota o novo uniforme, mas que os movimentos estão 300% melhores. E aqui, um usuário do SHH, fez um desenho de uma cena mostrada ontem: Big One2007-08-12 11:33:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaH!!! Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Referente a essa suposta comparação entre o Coringa de Ledger e o Coringa do Jack que a DC/Warner indiretamente está fazendo Keduardo eu começo a olhar com outros olhos. A principio eu tb não concordava com essa comparação, achava q iria prejudicar a franquia mas tendo com base os depoimentos de algumas pessoas de dentro e de fora da produção (agora vamos esquecer um pouco o lado do marketing q é feito disso ok???) eu acho q por se tratar de Coringa diferentes a comparação deixa de ser válida. Como o próprio David goyer disse (segundo a sua tradução), o Coringa do Jack era brincalhão e o do Ledger pelo q vimos (e ouvimos no teaser) ele tem um aspecto mais sombrio, mais sério. E qdo comparamos estilos totalmente diferentes essa comparação fica meio sem sentido. É como comparar um carro hatch com um utilitário esportivo (dois segmentos distintos q não permitem uma comparação lógica). E por mais q sejam personagens iguais, a personalidade será diferente como dá a entender. quer tentar comparar estilos diferentes??? Vamos tentar comparar Batman da série cômica de 66 com o Batman de Nolan...e aí? q resultado a gente chega??? Bom, eu estou começando a pensar desse modo, gostaria de saber a opinião de vcs tb... RaH!!!2007-08-12 12:12:47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cidraman Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 No de 66 o filme foi bizarro e o foco não foi batman contra coringa e sim batman contra "vilões" que eram os 4 (coringa' date='pinguim,charada e mulher gato) foi um fracasso.O outro foi o de 89, só batman x coringa(então um unico filme com confronto direto batman vs coringa) e ja foi e pronto, não foi um fracasso mais tambem conta com o primeiro filme do heroi em forma de blockbuster , igual homen-aranha 1.Em 89 os blockbuster estavam no inicio [/quote'] Tenho que discordar de alguns pontos aqui: O filme do Batman de 1966 não foi um fracasso, no que se refere a bilheteria e aceitação de público e crítica. Pelo contrário, consolidou a "Bat-Mania" nos EUA e abriu as portas em outros países, onde o seriado ainda não havia chegado com força total. E os blockbusters não estavam no início em 1989. Eles já existiam desde 1975, com "Tubarão", que foi o primeiro filme a ser considerado blockbuster. Em seguida veio "Star Wars" e definiu de vez o termo blockbuster na cultura cinematográfica americana. E claro, o primeiro filme de super-herói a trilhar este caminho foi "Superman - O Filme", de 1978. Esse eterno confronto "mocinhoXvilão" tem de ser mudado ' date=' um dos fracassos do superman returns é justamente esse confronto "superman x lex lutor" , esse confronto do "bem contra o mal" , as pessoas não caem mais nessa, quem é bem e quem é mal no mundo ? ninguem sabe, quanto mais num filme .Beggins deixa isto claro, quando batman não salva ras al gul, ali é a historia do batman e ponto e não a historia de um heroi bonzinho e de um mega vilão. [/quote'] Concordo e discordo aqui. Não acho que o confronto "mocinho x vilão" seja o problema. Em "Superman - O Retorno", o problema foi a homenagem excessiva aos filmes com Christopher Reeve (embora eu tenha adorado cada referência - e reverência - aos filmes), além de propostas um tanto complicadas para essa nova franquia do Super-Homem (um filho para o Super, um marido para Lois, etc). O confronto "mocinho x vilão" neste tipo de filme é necessário, como sempre foi em qualquer filme do Super-Homem (e qualquer filme de super-herói). O problema é que mais uma vez, o vilão foi o Lex Luthor. Foi isso que deixou muita gente chateada. Sempre o Luthor? Só existe o Luthor? Tudo bem que ele é o maior inimigo do Super-Homem. Mas e que tal o Darkseid? No que se refere ao Batman, o Coringa é seu maior inimigo e, ao contrário do Luthor, as pessoas sempre querem vê-lo em um filme do Batman. Concordo quando o keduardo questiona sobre "quem é o bem e quem é o mal no mundo". A idéia de "bem x mal" mudou muito nos últimos tempos. Uma mudança que afetou todo tipo de forma de expressão, inclusive o cinema. Entretanto, não podemos negar que, com mudanças ou não, o bem e o mal sempre existiram, e o cinema sempre retratou, de diversas formas, este confronto. Honestamente, sem esse confronto, qual seria a graça de ver um filme? Star Wars sequer existiria? E Indiana Jones? Ou qualquer outro bom filme de ação, seja se super-herói ou não? O cinema reflete a sociedade, mas também é uma forma de escapismo, onde as regras aplicadas ao dia-a-dia nem sempre se aplicam (como acredito que seja o caso do combate "bem x mal"). E um último ponto: a comparação entre Coringas é inevitável. Se não fosse o Jack Nicholson, seria o Cesar Romero. Se não fosse o Cesar Romero, seria alguém mais, e assim por diante. Mas acho que a comparação que todos faremos, assim que mais detalhes do personagem forem sendo revelados, é com os gibis. Esta sim será a comparação crucial para este Coringa do Heath Ledger. E acho que a combinação "Batman-Coringa-roteiro inteligente-boas cenas de ação" fará deste um dos filmes mais rentáveis do Homem-Morcego.cidra2007-08-12 13:43:45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members patient J. Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 well well well... Senhores, chegei em momento propício para dizer coisas mais simpes. Sendo um cara mais velho, e mais novo aqui do forum. Posso dizer que se voces procuram maquiagem perfeita para o meu amigo companheiro de assassinatos, o Harvey "duas-caras" Dent, devo sugerir que todos vao até o cinema e assistam o filme luzes do alem. por conhecidencia, o a pessoa com metade do rosto deformado está preso em um hospício.... hahahahaha Lá voces verao, em uma certa cena alguém com metade do rosto perfeitamente deformada. melhor estido two-face. lembrei dos colegas daqui...... caso alguém queira ver o que eu estou falando.... vou postar logo em seguida a imagem...... Título original: White Noise the light o imagem aparece por volta dos 53 minutos de filme. "Matar, todos matam, mas só alguns tem o dom supremo de realizar a arte da marca do assassinato" HA HA ha Ha hA Ha ha hA hA ha ha !!!!!patient J.2007-08-12 14:32:48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaH!!! Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Olá patient J., é um prazer recebê-lo aqui no fórum, seja muito bem vindo... E eu vou seguir o seu conselho, vou procurar esse filme numa locadora para ver..mas bem q vc poderia postar essa imagem q vc disse pra gente tb né? se não for pedir muito claro... E Cidra, parabéns pelo último comentário, concordo plenamente Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keduardo Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Em Nome de Deus,O Clemente,O Misericordioso ======================================== Ola amigo cidra, o filme de 66 foi um fracasso sim, a série que não, chegou a dar algum dinheiro, mais a proposta fo filme seria séria a principio e não conseguiu.E a bat-mania consolidada pela série era ruim, o batman era fraco e o robin era gay. E sobre blockbuster muito se discute qual foi o primeiro blockbuster , muitos creditam a batman de 89, outros a caça-fantasmas, outros a star wars e outros a tubarão, eu porem disse que os blockbuster em 89 estavam só no inicio, hoje o embate "vilão x mocinho" e "princisa salva no final" não convence mais. Fique com Deus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RaH!!! Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Vc está muito enganado Keduardo se acha q o confronto entre o bem e o mal perdeu a graça, não convence mais... É um absurdo isso... se esse confronto não existe no cinema o q as pessoas vão ver?..documentário???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members patient J. Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Rah, Todo mundo... obrigado pelas boas vindas... tentarei ser pouco sádico neste forum ha HA hA Ha HA hA !!! mas que seja. Infelizmente nao encontrei fotos do personagem na net. Quem puder me ajudar.... agradeco. O Filme ainda está no cinema... mas nada que uma boa curiosidade na net nao ajude a tirar a curiosidade... he he he he he he he !!! Volterei com mais noticias infames assim que eu encontrar.... "Matar, todos matam, mas só alguns tem o dom supremo de realizar a arte da marca do assassinato" HA HA ha Ha hA Ha ha hA hA ha ha !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members patient J. Posted August 12, 2007 Members Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 Enquanto nao tem fotos oficiais do meu caro e novo amigo Two Face. Aqui sao apresentadas imagens interessantes.... "Matar, todos matam, mas só alguns tem o dom supremo de realizar a arte da marca do assassinato" HA HA ha Ha hA Ha ha hA hA ha ha !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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