Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Negativa! "Love Among the Ruins" With tidy alliteration, the title announces the movie’s intentions: Batman begins his revenge against evildoers who killed his parents and who bedevil the rest of Gotham City, itself a secret identity for Manhattan. He begins the restoration of his reputation after previous Bat-director Joel Schumacher put nipples on his costume and drivel in his mouth. It all sounded so good on paper: Intelligent director (Memento’s Christopher Nolan) and adventurous actor (Christian Bale, beefcaked up, post-Machinist) unite to retell the origin of one of the few superheroes without superpowers—Batman relies on guile and strength. Screenwriter David Goyer even picked a nicely semi-obscure villain from the comic books, the Scarecrow (28 Days Later’s Cillian Murphy). But Begins, at two-hours-plus, is a nonstarter. It takes too long to get past little-boy Bruce Wayne (Gus Lewis) and have him become a wealthy playboy pining for a childhood sweetheart who grows up to be Katie Holmes (she walks through the film with skeptical reserve). The Scarecrow onscreen is just a strenuous jerk who puts a burlap bag with eyeholes cut into it over his head, and who fogs people’s minds with nightmares. If Nolan and Goyer stint on the villain’s showiness (in theory not a bad thing, when you remember Arnold Schwarzenegger’s ludicrously garish Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin), they overdo random items, such as turning the Batmobile into a cumbersome tanklike vehicle. There are many long, noisy car chases and collisions. Why does Batman ride the ’mobile over police cars, crushing them? You say I’m carping; I quote Goyer in the press notes: “One of Chris’s mantras was . . . ‘It has to be real.’” “Real” is not Batman making pancakes of cop cars. “Real” is not what we want from a superhero blowout; we want impossible thrills—heightened yet demotic lyricism. As the latest jaw-beneath-the-cowl, Bale makes his voice raspy for a menace that does not convince. Only Michael Caine, as trusty but crusty butler Alfred, turns in anything like a “real” performance. The best thing about Batman Begins is the generous spirit Bruce Wayne’s father imparts to him as a wee lad: “Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.” Exactly: not to flatten things, be they cars or our spirits." http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/reviews/11930/index1. html Como já disse, particulamente, quero a coisa equilibrada. felipef38509.7253472222 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members RegisPN Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 juro por deus que eu não acho esse carro feio' date=' por mais esquisito que pareça pra voces, eu acho o visual desse carro incrível!!!! regis, por um aborto da natureza, existiria o vídeo dessas imagens? obs: uma melhor que a outra....[/quote'] Vídeo? Não q eu saiba... As primeiras fotos foram feitas num circuito alemão. Não sei se antes de alguma corrida. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members begins Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Here it is It's more Bruce Wayne than caped crusader in "Batman Begins," a telling of the legendary character's formative experiences that gives precedence to psychology over super-heroics. While developing an elaborate backstory for the 66-year-old comic book figure, director Christopher NolanChristopher Nolan delivers a very serious would-be franchise launcher that, perhaps inadvertently, bears closer thematic comparison to "Kill Bill""Kill Bill" and aspects of "Star Wars" than to what audiences primed on the Burton/Schumacher films or the TV series might expect. Ambitious, well made but not exactly rousing, lavishly produced Warner Bros. release will ride heavy promotion and want-see to big openings worldwide, but is too dark and talky to appeal to kids and won't inspire much repeat viewing, which casts sought-after blockbuster B.O.B.O. in some doubt. After so much to-and-fro about how to revive the Dark Knight (the studio's last entry in its four-picture set, the lamentable "Batman and Robin," appeared just eight years ago), it was a fairly gutsy bet on Warner's part to entrust the job to Nolan, a crafty young director whose "Memento""Memento" and "Insomnia""Insomnia" evinced storytelling smarts, visual flair and good instincts with actors. But these matters aren't at issue. Rather, it's the story that's been chosen to be told, and the degree of gravity invested in it. From the opening scene, Nolan and co-screenwriter David S. GoyerDavid S. Goyer ( the "Blade""Blade" series) foreground the demons that haunt and drive Bruce Wayne, and it's a full hour before "the Bat-Man" (as he was originally called) shows up. Psychological depth is all well and good, but it's an open question how much time you want to spend on it when the subject is a cartoon character. The filmmakers seem intent upon making Bruce/Batman and his actions as plausible (one resists saying realistic) as possible, emphasizing that he's a distinctly human hero with no super powers. All the same, guys, he was still born in a comic book, and it's doubtful Batman would have lived very long had the original DC ComicsDC Comics been as drained of sheer childlike fun as this film is. There is talent and cleverness here, but not much excitement. Jumping around in time during the opening stretch, pic details how Bruce Wayne (Christian BaleChristian Bale as an adult, Gus Lewis as a kid), the only child of a wealthy philanthropic industrialist, is traumatized at an early age upon accidentally falling into an empty well that's home to an enormous number of bats; feels guilt over the murder of his parents at the hands of a derelict robber; leaves his palatial home upon reaching maturity to investigate criminality in the darker corners of Asia, and is rescued from a dreadful prison (in what the press notes indicate is Bhutan) by a mysterious fellow named Ducard (Liam Neeson). A tough taskmaster, Ducard teaches his specially selected pupil about achieving justice and becoming a legend. Although shot in Iceland amidst spectacular terrain that recalls the Alaskan setting of "Insomnia," this long instructional section is filled with philosophical gobbledygook about developing strength by facing your deepest fears, methods of focusing anger and vengefulness, and how "you must journey inwards." Some of this is delivered while Ducard and Bruce face off with large swords on a frozen lake, and one must be forgiven for imagining that what's onscreen are outtakes from "Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace," with Neeson's Jedi knight teaching Obi-Wan Kenobi dueling techniques. It doesn't stop there, however, as "The Last Samurai""The Last Samurai" is invoked with the entrance of Ken Watanabe as the charismatic leader of a vigilante ninja org called the League of Shadows. In the end, Bruce proves himself a worthy student, returning home to take on the rampant corruption in Gotham (or is it Sin City?). Half the city is in the pocket of gangster Carmine Falcone (Tom WilkinsonTom Wilkinson). Others up to no good are Dr. Jonathan Crane (Cillian MurphyCillian Murphy), a young psychiatrist who leads a double life as the sinister Scarecrow, and Earle (Rutger Hauer), who has taken charge of the Wayne family industries. Although none of these figures qualifies as a great villain, Bruce begins developing his alter ego with help from ever-loyal butler Alfred (Michael CaineMichael Caine) and company high-tech expert Lucius Fox (Morgan FreemanMorgan Freeman). Fox functions much like "M""M" in the Bond films by turning Bruce on to useful gizmos, including a very powerful armored vehicle ("Does it come in black?" Bruce inquires, in one of the better lines). Batman begins modestly by disrupting a drug shipment and handing Falcone to the police, one of whose few honest officers is Detective Sergeant Jim Gordon (Gary OldmanGary Oldman). Also on the good team is Bruce's childhood friend Rachel (Katie HolmesKatie Holmes), a very young-looking assistant district attorney who is disappointed that Bruce appears to be a dissolute playboy with no ideals. Nolan and Goyer dwell on the idea of the masks one chooses to put on for the world to see, as well as the notion of character being defined by deed not word; concepts are entirely appropriate to Batman, but are hardly new or worth belaboring. Then there's the late-on surprise of who the main bad guy turns out to be, which is all right but further splinters the villainy. All along, pic emphasizes the real-worldliness of Bruce. This is even a Batman movie in which the Batcave is an actual bat cave. But when it comes to Batman's attacks on adversaries, the film fudges it, throwing a flurry of images on the screen with quick editing that obscures how the winged one manages to so easily drop in on his enemies. What this incarnation of Batman lacks is theatricality, a sense of showmanship to put over the new approach. Although little jokes and quips are gradually introduced, only slowly does Nolan dare to begin having any fun with the material, and even then far too cautiously. It's not that the film is prosaic, but it is terribly sober, afraid to make grand gestures and build to major payoffs. It's as if, out of a desire to appear smart and not to pander to the large public destined to see the picture, Nolan restrained himself from providing moments that might prove too audience pleasing. As opposed to the highly designed Gotham City of the Tim BurtonTim Burton pictures, this one features cityscapes that recognizably belong to the real Chicago, with a fictional monorail system added in. Nor is there anything fetishistic about the Batman costume, which is plain and functional. With an ideal physique and bearing for the role, Bale makes for a committed, driven, urbane and intelligent do-gooder; only oddity is the somewhat electronic quality of his voice as Batman. Neeson is a fearsome mentor, and Murphy makes a strong impression as the corrupt doctor, although the Scarecrow persona is woefully undeveloped. Oldman is effectively cast against type as the most decent man in GothamGotham, Holmes is OK, and Caine dryly does all he can in the butler role that could have benefited from some posthumous additional dialogue by Preston Sturges. Unusual soundtrack collaboration by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard results in a moodily churning score that adds an extra sense of momentum to the tale. Tag promises a sequel in which the Joker is specifically indicated as the chief villain. Camera (Technicolor, Panavision widescreen), Wally Pfister; editor, Lee Smith; music, Hans Zimmer, James Newton Howard; production designer, Nathan Crowley; supervising art director, Simon Lamont; senior art director, Alan Tomkins; art directors, Susan Whitaker, Dominic Masters, Peter Francis, Paul Kirby; set decorators, Simon Wakefield, Paki Smith; costume designer, Lindy Hemming; sound (DTS/SDDS/Dolby Digital), Peter Lindsay; re-recording mixers, Lora Hirschberg, Gary A. Rizzo; supervising sound editors, David G. Evans, Stefan Henrix; visual effects supervisors, Janek Sirrs, Dan Glass; special effects supervisor, Chris Corbould; visual effects, Double Negative, Cutting Edge, The Moving Picture Co., BUF, Rising Sun Pictures, The Senate Visual Effects, Jim Henson's Creature Shop; associate producer, Cheryl A. Tkach; assistant director, Cliff Lanning; stunt coordinator, Sy Hollands; casting, John PapsideraJohn Papsidera, Lucinda Syson. Reviewed at Warner Bros. StudiosWarner Bros. Studios, Burbank, June 1, 2005. MPAAMPAA Rating: PG-13. Running time: 140 MIN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 "The Gotham City created in "Batman" is one of the most distinctive and atmospheric places I've seen in the movies. It's a shame something more memorable doesn't happen there. "Batman" is a triumph of design over story, style over substance - a great-looking movie with a plot you can't care much about. All of the big moments in the movie are pounded home with ear-shattering sound effects and a jackhammer cutting style, but that just serves to underline the movie's problem, which is a curious lack of suspense and intrinsic interest. "Batman" discards the recent cultural history of the Batman character - the camp 1960s TV series, the in-joke comic books - and returns to the mood of the 1940s, the decade of film noir and fascism. The movie is set at the present moment, more or less, but looks as if little has happened in architecture or city planning since the classic DC comic books created that architectural style you could call Comic Book Moderne. The streets of Gotham City are lined with bizarre skyscrapers that climb cancerously toward the sky, held up (or apart) by sky bridges and stresswork that look like webs against the night sky. At street level, gray and anonymous people scurry fearfully through the shadows, and the city cancels its 200th anniversary celebration because the streets are not safe enough to hold it. Gotham is in the midst of a wave of crime and murder orchestrated by The Joker (Jack Nicholson), and civilization is defended only by Batman (Michael Keaton). The screenplay takes a bow in the direction of the origin of the Batman story (young Bruce Wayne saw his parents murdered by a thug and vowed to use their fortune to dedicate his life to crime-fighting), and it also explains how The Joker got his fearsome grimace. Then it turns into a gloomy showdown between the two bizarre characters. Nicholson's Joker is really the most important character in the movie - in impact and screen time - and Keaton's Batman and Bruce Wayne characters are so monosyllabic and impenetrable that we have to remind ourselves to cheer for them. Kim Basinger strides in as Vicky Vale, a famous photographer assigned to the Gotham City crime wave, but although she and Wayne carry on a courtship and Batman rescues her from certain death more than once, there's no chemistry and little eroticism. The strangest scene in the movie may be the one where Vicky is brought into the Batcave by Alfred, the faithful valet, and realizes for the first time that Bruce Wayne and Batman are the same person. How does she react? She doesn't react. The movie forgets to allow her to be astonished. Remembering the movie, I find that the visuals remain strong in my mind, but I have trouble caring about what happened in front of them. I remember an astonishing special effects shot that travels up, up to the penthouse of a towering, ugly skyscraper, and I remember the armor slamming shut on the Batmobile as if it were a hightech armadillo. I remember The Joker grinning beneath a hideous giant balloon as he dispenses free cash in his own travesty of the Macy's parade, and I remember a really vile scene in which he defaces art masterpieces in the local museum before Batman crashes in through the skylight. But did I care about the relationship between these two caricatures? Did either one have the depth of even a comic book character? Not really. And there was something off-putting about the anger beneath the movie's violence. This is a hostile, mean-spirited movie about ugly, evil people, and it doesn't generate the liberating euphoria of the Superman or Indiana Jones pictures. It's classified PG-13, but it's not for kids. Should it be seen, anyway? Probably. Director Tim Burton and his special effects team have created a visual place that has some of the same strength as Fritz Lang's Metropolis or Ridley Scott's futuristic Los Angeles in "Blade Runner." The gloominess of the visuals has a haunting power. Nicholson has one or two of his patented moments of inspiration, although not as many as I would have expected. And the music by Prince, intercut with classics, is effectively joined in the images. The movie's problem is that no one seemed to have any fun making it, and it's hard to have much fun watching it. It's a depressing experience. Is the opposite of comic book "tragic book"? felipef38509.7447800926 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted June 6, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 E dá lhe THE TRUMBLER!!! Carro feio' date=' parrudo e esquisito, SIM! Graças a Deus!!! Porque quem gosta de carrinho bonitinho e cheio de frescuras, é Penélope Charmosa!!! [/quote'] Seria o circuito de Hockenheimring na Alemanha ??? Onde tem a F1, aliás F1 + The Trumbler, ninguém merece... A 2° foto, seria CGI ??? hauhuahuahua... Duka*** essas fotos..demais... EDITANDO: Na verdade estas fotos foram tiradas duranter os treinos livres da Formula 1, no circuito de Nürburgring, na prova que aconteceu no último dia 29 de maio. Caraca, eu acompanho a F1 e não fiquei sabendo... Big One38509.7675694444 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Negativa! "Love Among the Ruins" <FONT size=+1>With tidy alliteration' date=' the title announces the movie’s intentions: Batman begins his revenge against evildoers who killed his parents and who bedevil the rest of Gotham City, itself a secret identity for Manhattan. He begins the restoration of his reputation after previous Bat-director Joel Schumacher put nipples on his costume and drivel in his mouth. <!--end paragraph--> <!--begin paragraph--> It all sounded so good on paper: Intelligent director (Memento’s Christopher Nolan) and adventurous actor (Christian Bale, beefcaked up, post-Machinist) unite to retell the origin of one of the few superheroes without superpowers—Batman relies on guile and strength. Screenwriter David Goyer even picked a nicely semi-obscure villain from the comic books, the Scarecrow (28 Days Later’s Cillian Murphy). <!--end paragraph--> <!--begin paragraph--> But Begins, at two-hours-plus, is a nonstarter. It takes too long to get past little-boy Bruce Wayne (Gus Lewis) and have him become a wealthy playboy pining for a childhood sweetheart who grows up to be Katie Holmes (she walks through the film with skeptical reserve). The Scarecrow onscreen is just a strenuous jerk who puts a burlap bag with eyeholes cut into it over his head, and who fogs people’s minds with nightmares. If Nolan and Goyer stint on the villain’s showiness (in theory not a bad thing, when you remember Arnold Schwarzenegger’s ludicrously garish Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin), they overdo random items, such as turning the Batmobile into a cumbersome tanklike vehicle. There are many long, noisy car chases and collisions. Why does Batman ride the ’mobile over police cars, crushing them? You say I’m carping; I quote Goyer in the press notes: “One of Chris’s mantras was . . . ‘It has to be real.’” “Real” is not Batman making pancakes of cop cars. “Real” is not what we want from a superhero blowout; we want impossible thrills—heightened yet demotic lyricism. As the latest jaw-beneath-the-cowl, Bale makes his voice raspy for a menace that does not convince. Only Michael Caine, as trusty but crusty butler Alfred, turns in anything like a “real” performance. The best thing about Batman Begins is the generous spirit Bruce Wayne’s father imparts to him as a wee lad: “Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.” Exactly: not to flatten things, be they cars or our spirits." http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/reviews/11930/index1. html Como já disse, particulamente, quero a coisa equilibrada. [/quote'] menos né, menos...não precisava bater palmas pro cara também.... também, o que que ele quer, mais um detratorzinho adotando a linha, o correto é "to follow the comic-book line adopted by burton"?!?!?! e o que que tem de mais passar por cima da polícia???? ISSO NÃO É REAL????QUANTOS DE NÓS NÃO SONHAMOS FAZER ISSO COM ESSES OTÁRIOS!?!?!?!OU PELO MENOS BOA PARTE DELES..... falou mal do espantalho que promete ser um dos pontos altos do filme, ridicularizou a proposta do filme.... e o único que ele ainda "tentou" fazer menção de poupar, que foi michael caine, no final ele ainda tira sarro... no final só thomas wayne se escapou...brincadeira, que lástima....esse filme será tudo, menos piegas... que a crítica desse cara e de mais um monte de gente tá por aí e vai continuar vindo e eu não posso fazer nada a respeito é uma coisa, agora tenho todo o direito de achar uma bosta, assim como disse muito bem j.c.c. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Não bati palmas para ele, cabeçudo! Nem para a crítica em si. Se liga, mané! felipef38509.7681134259 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted June 6, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Negativa! "Love Among the Ruins" <FONT size=+1>With tidy alliteration' date=' the title announces the movie’s intentions: Batman begins his revenge against evildoers who killed his parents and who bedevil the rest of Gotham City, itself a secret identity for Manhattan. He begins the restoration of his reputation after previous Bat-director Joel Schumacher put nipples on his costume and drivel in his mouth. <!--end paragraph--> <!--begin paragraph--> It all sounded so good on paper: Intelligent director (Memento’s Christopher Nolan) and adventurous actor (Christian Bale, beefcaked up, post-Machinist) unite to retell the origin of one of the few superheroes without superpowers—Batman relies on guile and strength. Screenwriter David Goyer even picked a nicely semi-obscure villain from the comic books, the Scarecrow (28 Days Later’s Cillian Murphy). <!--end paragraph--> <!--begin paragraph--> But Begins, at two-hours-plus, is a nonstarter. It takes too long to get past little-boy Bruce Wayne (Gus Lewis) and have him become a wealthy playboy pining for a childhood sweetheart who grows up to be Katie Holmes (she walks through the film with skeptical reserve). The Scarecrow onscreen is just a strenuous jerk who puts a burlap bag with eyeholes cut into it over his head, and who fogs people’s minds with nightmares. If Nolan and Goyer stint on the villain’s showiness (in theory not a bad thing, when you remember Arnold Schwarzenegger’s ludicrously garish Mr. Freeze in Batman & Robin), they overdo random items, such as turning the Batmobile into a cumbersome tanklike vehicle. There are many long, noisy car chases and collisions. Why does Batman ride the ’mobile over police cars, crushing them? You say I’m carping; I quote Goyer in the press notes: “One of Chris’s mantras was . . . ‘It has to be real.’” “Real” is not Batman making pancakes of cop cars. “Real” is not what we want from a superhero blowout; we want impossible thrills—heightened yet demotic lyricism. As the latest jaw-beneath-the-cowl, Bale makes his voice raspy for a menace that does not convince. Only Michael Caine, as trusty but crusty butler Alfred, turns in anything like a “real” performance. The best thing about Batman Begins is the generous spirit Bruce Wayne’s father imparts to him as a wee lad: “Why do we fall? So that we can learn to pick ourselves up.” Exactly: not to flatten things, be they cars or our spirits." http://newyorkmetro.com/nymetro/movies/reviews/11930/index1. html Como já disse, particulamente, quero a coisa equilibrada. [/quote'] menos né, menos...não precisava bater palmas pro cara também.... também, o que que ele quer, mais um detratorzinho adotando a linha, o correto é "to follow the comic-book line adopted by burton"?!?!?! e o que que tem de mais passar por cima da polícia???? ISSO NÃO É REAL????QUANTOS DE NÓS NÃO SONHAMOS FAZER ISSO COM ESSES OTÁRIOS!?!?!?!OU PELO MENOS BOA PARTE DELES..... falou mal do espantalho que promete ser um dos pontos altos do filme, ridicularizou a proposta do filme.... e o único que ele ainda "tentou" fazer menção de poupar, que foi michael caine, no final ele ainda tira sarro... no final só thomas wayne se escapou...brincadeira, que lástima....esse filme será tudo, menos piegas... que a crítica desse cara e de mais um monte de gente tá por aí e vai continuar vindo e eu não posso fazer nada a respeito é uma coisa, agora tenho todo o direito de achar uma bosta, assim como disse muito bem j.c.c. Este eh o mmo, q em um único review, elogiou Mr. and Ms. Smith e detonou o Batman...agora sim eu fiquei realmente preocupado com o que esta ilustríssima figura pensa. Love Among the Ruins Brangelina heats up the screen with violent chemistry, but Batman fails to save the day. By Ken Tucker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 best movie of the summer, 4 June 2005Author: bohemianseraph from Hollywood, California So I just came from a screening of Batman Begins. And as a moviegoer lately incredibly disappointed in what's been out there, I have to say, there was nothing like this summer movie. In other words, GO SEE IT: ITS INCREDIBLE.Sincerely, the acting talents of Michael Cain, Morgan Freeman, Liam Neeson, Ken Watanabe, and Christian Bale as Batman were all fantastic. The story was intense, gripping, dark, and suspenseful. Sort of like Spiderman times 1,000. Great plot twists, and interesting story development. If you're a Batman fan already, you'll be in heaven. With insights such as the development of his bat suit to Christian Bale test driving the bat mobile, there is little room not to. Even if your someone like me who never read a batman comic or saw a batman movie, you'll still thinks its just fantastically cool.In summary, if your looking for an awesome, entertaining movie whether you're a guy or girl (guys will love the chase scenes and fight sequences, and ladies, Chistian Bale looks mighty fine without a shirt on), go see Batman.You won't regret it. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0372784/felipef38509.8139467593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Salame Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Para quem estava esperando (assim como eu), aí está a primeira parte do review do editor da BOF: THE BOF BATMAN BEGINS REVIEW, Part 1 Monday, June 6, 2005 Author: Jett This all started back in 1998 - June 2, 1998 to be exact. That was the day that I launched this website that you are reading now, BATMAN ON FILM. It was then that I began campaigning for a new BATMAN film and reporting any and all news regarding "BATMAN 5." Flash forward exactly seven years later. The morning of June 2, 2005 started very early for me, as I was due to be on an 8 AM flight to Los Angeles. I woke up early - earlier than I had intended actually - and couldn't go back to sleep. Couldn't stop thinking about BATMAN BEGINS and the fact that I would be seeing it in a little over twelve hours. I arrived at Bush Intercontinental Airport Houston about an hour prior to the flight. I moved through security rather quickly and proceeded to my gate - which just happened to be the last one in terminal E. I arrived just as they were making the last boarding call for the flight, which was fine with me - I wouldn't have to be sitting around the gate waiting to board the damn plane. A few minutes after I found my seat, it took off without a hitch, heading west. I hate flying. I don't know if I have ever mentioned that here on BOF. I mean I do it, and I fly somewhat regularly, but I still don't like it. Luckily, the three hour ride to LA was smooth as could be. I watched a movie on my laptop - FRIDAY NIGHT LIGHTS. If you haven't seen it yet, you should - especially if you are a sports movie fan. Shows you how serious we take our football here in the Lone Star State. Actually, in 1975 when I was ten years old, my hometown high school (Port Neches-Groves High School in Port Neches, Texas) won the state football championship of Texas by defeating Odessa Perrmian High. And Perrmian is the team that is depicted in FNL. I got to LA around 9 AM local time, hired a shuttle to take me to the hotel, and got to the Beverly Wilshire Hotel about an hour or so later. This is the location of the BATMAN BEGINS press junket and where Warner Bros. put me up for the night. Pretty darn nice digs, I've got to say. I checked in, got to my room, and then did some work on BOF. I also did an interview with a writer for THE BOSTON GLOBE that will run in conjunction to the release of BATMAN BEGINS. I'm really "big time," right? Yeah right. One of the first things that struck me about LA was the weather. Very nice and cool. A welcomed change from the humid, mid to high 90s I had left back home in Houston. Around mid afternoon, I headed up to the hospitality suite that Warner Bros. had set up for the junket. There, I almost lost my "professional demeanor" and slipped into full fan mode. Greeting me at the door was a full-size Batman costume from the film! Walking around, I found that they had several costumes from BEGINS on display: another pre-Batman Batman suit; the raggedy-ass clothes Bruce Wayne wears in Asia; the clothes that Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman) is wearing when he shows Bruce Wayne (Christian Bale) the future Bat-gear; on of Ra's Al Ghul's (Ken Watanabe) costumes; and The Scarecrow's garb - including the burlap sack mask and straight-coat! Very cool! I was able to snap a few pictures and then went on back to my room to get ready for the 7 PM screening. The bus for Mann’s Chinese Theater was leaving at 6 PM sharp from the Beverley Wilshire. I arrived and took a seat at about twenty ’til the hour. The bus already had several people on it, and many were still boarding. Soon, the Warner Bros. reps arrived, did a quick head count and check-in, and off we went. It took about forty minutes or so to get to the theater. The talk on the bus was about Batman. The girl behind me was representing ABOUT.COM, and informed me that she know very little about Batman. She asked me who I was there for, “BATMAN ON FILM,” I told her. “I know you,” she said, “you must be very excited?” “More than I can say,” I replied. Once arrived, we were given instructions to head back to the bus soon after the screening, or your ass would be left behind. During the short walk to the theater, I was able to snap a few pictures - one of them (which you can see below). The building across from the theater had it’s entire from side covered in a BATMAN BEGINS ad, making it a huge Bat-billboard! We continued on across the famous hand and footprints, up some stairs to the fourth floor, and on into the building. We were given a movie pass and had any bags checked for recording devices. No cavity searches took place as far as I know. I got my ticket and headed on in to secure a good seat. People were still filling in over the next several minutes, and the auditorium soon grew to maximum capacity. It was damn packed. I was sitting there thinking - anxious as hell - “Dude, you are about to see BATMAN BEGINS! Like at any moment!” Eight years of waiting for another Bat-film was about to come to an end. My lifetime wait of seeing the definitive Batman flick could possibly be ending as well. The lights dimmed. Some scattered applause broke out among the crowd which included me. The Warner Bros. logo appeared in black and white on the screen, followed by the new DC Comics movie intro. Then swarming bats flying across the screen, briefly forming the BATMAN BEGINS logo. No credits, just straight to the film. Here it was, finally! BATMAN BEGINS had begun. TO BE CONTINUED… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alexander Bell Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 RATING: FRESH READING: 83% (FRESH = 60% or Greater) Reviews counted: 6Fresh: 5 Rotten: 1Average Rating: 7.1/10 Atualizando.... Ei... me tirem uma dúvida, por gentileza. Essa avaliação é em cima das críticas oficiais publicadas, certo? Aquele link que diz "Rate this movie" não tem influência alguma sobre essa avaliação aí, certo? Ou tem? Pq se for assim, qualquer um, mesmo sem ter assisitido o filme, pode votar sem nenhum tipo de critério. ---------------------------------------------- Cara... tá difícil de acompanhas este tópico. Meu últimpo post foi no sábado e estávamos na página 194. Não acessei no domingo, e agora na segunda à noite, já estamos na página 206! Putz... Acredito q sejamos o maior tópico de todo este fórum do CeC, superando o fórum dos "fanáticos" Globo x SBT. ---------------------------------------------- Ah... agradeço à galera que foi solidária à minha revolta com relação aos pseudo-críticos da MTv! Em especial o grande Adam Jones, que se mostrou tão revoltado quanto eu. ---------------------------------------------- Cara, ontem eu vi no xoping um boneco do Batman que deve ter uns 70 ou 80 centímetros de altura!! Dá pra ver o uniforme em detalhes. O único defeito é que o boneco está com uma cara sorridente. Nessa mesma ocasião eu também vi o Batmóvel. Muito legal! Pelo menos esse que eu vi, não tinha aqueles mísseis e metralhadoras vermelhas artificiais. ah... e vc aperta um botãozinho... e o motor faz barulho e a turbina "solta chamas" ... tá..tá... só acende. ----------------------------------------------- Por fim.... eu fikei p#to da vida com a matéria de uma revista que foi scaneada algumas páginas atrás, onde mostra uma foto imensa do rosto do Chris Bale, nakela cena do elevador com o Alfred, o Bale com uma cara de chorão... e o título da matéria dizia algo do tipo: "VOCÊ ACREDITARIA QUE PODE SER SALVO POR ESSE HOMEM?" K-r#lho!!!!! Que chamada bost# e ridícula!! Como o Felipef diria, é proposital! Pra provocar e sacanear os fãs!!! Que raiva!!!! E por acaso o Homem-Aranha também não mostra um sujeito sofrido e cheio de dramas pessoias que supera os seus limites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Sobre a crítica do Jett, eu sabia que ele ia falar do ritual antes do filme nessa 1ª parte.felipef38509.8277314815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Bell, a temperatura do RT só é media por criticas profissionais/oficiais. Ninguém pode interferir em nada. Quanto a foto do Bale no elevador, preparem-se pois acho que ainda virão mais coisas deste tipo. E só para relembrar, a única coisa que importa e você e Batman Begins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 From the Magazine | Arts Batman Gets a New Vehicle And it's one tricked-out Batmobile. The movie, on the other hand, isn't exactly a smooth rideBy RICHARD SCHICKEL SUBSCRIBE TO TIMEPRINTE-MAILMORE BY AUTHOR Posted Monday, Jun. 13, 2005What is Batman afraid of? What might give the moody masked millionaire the primal shakes? The answer—and it's an easy one if you stop to think about it—is bats. Those furry, whirry creatures traumatized little Bruce Wayne when he was a kid. He has other, more guilt-edged issues, involving his saintly parents, as well. When we first meet Bruce (Christian Bale) as a grownup, he has traveled far (to Asia) and fallen low (a Chinese prison) in an attempt to restore wellness to his troubled soul. Specifically, he joins up with a bunch of muscular moralists known as the League of Shadows, whose leader (Liam Neeson in a really distracting mustache) imparts to him the will and skill to face his demons and, incidentally, go home and clean up Gotham, which has lapsed into Blade Runner-like disarray. Rutger Hauer, now more portly than androidesque, even turns up as a corporate smoothy. Robin is not yet on the scene—guess he'll arrive in the next prequel—but Bruce is even more than usually asexual in this movie. So much cleansing to do, so little time to do it. Girls (or, for that matter, boys) are a distraction he can't afford. Whenever Katie Holmes, unwisely loving him, appears, he starts doing his Penguin imitation, perhaps understandably. There's the Bat Cave to tidy up, the Bat gear to invent (wry Morgan Freeman is helpful in that regard) and a bustling array of master and minor criminals to bring to justice. For a while, Batman Begins is fitfully entertaining. Maybe the Force, with its ascetic demands, is too strong with our modern superheroes: enigmatic mind games are played as the karate chops fly. It may also be true that urban dystopia has become too much a ruling cliche in movie art direction. The weather in Gotham is perpetually inclement, and its garbage is forever uncollected. In fairness, it must be said that the script (by director Christopher Nolan and David S. Goyer) breaks with sobriety to give someone, usually Michael Caine as Alfred, Bruce's faithful, fussy butler, something smart to say. Eventually, however, Nolan, who directed the tricky, widely admired Memento, must oblige the conventions of the big-budget action movie: darkly improbable weaponry, pyrotechnics, car chases (the Batmobile is admittedly pretty novel), editing that edges toward incomprehensibility. Basically, Nolan's job is to revive a troubled studio franchise, and you can feel him struggling to reanimate the neurotic dislocations of Tim Burton's 1989 Batman. His effort is not dishonorable, but what it needs, and doesn't have, is a Joker in the deck—some antic human antimatter to give it the giddy lift of perversity that a bunch of impersonal explosions, no matter how well managed, can't supply. —By Richard Schickel From the Jun. 13, 2005 issue of TIME magazine http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1069107,00. html Edit: Pontos nessa crítica me fizeram rir. Primeira das negativas que não tem como tirar nada de interessante. felipef38509.8441666667 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clark Posted June 6, 2005 Author Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Sinceramente eu parei de ler as criticas do filme(alias,qualquer coisa relacionada ao fime,daqui a pouco sei o filme de cabo a rabo),quero assistir e eu mesmo tirar minhas conclusões... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Sinceramente eu parei de ler as criticas do filme(alias' date='qualquer coisa relacionada ao fime,daqui a pouco sei o filme de cabo a rabo),quero assistir e eu mesmo tirar minhas conclusões...[/quote'] Foi exatamente o que falei lá em cima, clark. Cada um com seu Batman Begins. No final das contas, é só o que vai importar. A partir de agora, só vou ler a crítica do Jett, acompanhar a "temperatura" no RT e passar o olho nas principais críticas nacionais.felipef38509.8402083333 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heavymetalboy Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 RATING: FRESH READING: 83% (FRESH = 60% or Greater) Reviews counted: 6Fresh: 5 Rotten: 1Average Rating: 7.1/10 ---------------------------------------------- Cara, ontem eu vi no xoping um boneco do Batman que deve ter uns 70 ou 80 centímetros de altura!! Dá pra ver o uniforme em detalhes. O único defeito é que o boneco está com uma cara sorridente. [/quote'] Seria este da foto né, ele tem cerca de 30" Quase 80 cm, bem fodão mesmo aqui no RJ custa R$ 190,00 , To indo comprar o meu !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Custa 190?! Vocês são loucos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heavymetalboy Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Custa 190?! Vocês são loucos! Cara, é do tamanho de uma criança, bunitão mesmo. Daqui a uns 10 anos vai valer alguns milhares de reais. . Eu sou Maluco sim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Mas 190 Reais é irreal. Ainda mais num brinquedo. Porque não comprou action figure mesmo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members heavymetalboy Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Mas 190 Reais é irreal. Ainda mais num brinquedo. Porque não comprou action figure mesmo? Ué, este grandão tambem é uma "Action Figure" , Tem a menorzinha, que custa cerca de R$ 39,90 Tem tambem uma de cerca de 30 cm que custa R$ 99,00 esses valores são de tabela no Brasil interio. Agora, lá no EUA tem uma série de Estátuas, lindas. Tem ate uma do The Thumbler custa cerca de U$ 165,00 cada (MA ROMENOS R$ 412,00) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Essa está bacana.felipef38509.8678703704 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted June 6, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Bell' date=' a temperatura do RT só é media por criticas profissionais/oficiais. Ninguém pode interferir em nada. Quanto a foto do Bale no elevador, preparem-se pois acho que ainda virão mais coisas deste tipo. E só para relembrar, a única coisa que importa e você e Batman Begins.[/quote'] Está uma verdadeiro tsunami de Reviews...e eu, que não li o roteiro e não sei de boa parte da trama, não vou ficar lendo todos os reviews. Agora só vou ler o do Jeff, se não conter Spoilers, li a primeira parte e achei bem interessnate, ele contando o passo á passo pra assisitir ao filme. Do filme mmo, ele só contou que o filme começa sem créditos...right to the movie... E tb espero saber o que a Veja vai falar do filme, provavelmente neste próximo fim de semana já saia uma crítica, e tb do Rubens Ewald Filho, do Kleber Mendonça (Cinemascópio), Ruy Gardner (Contracampo) e claro, do Pablo Villaça. No máximo vou querer saber das notas, mas ler mmo, só depois de ver o filme. E sobre o Rotten, eh como o feliepf disse, só quem eh membro de alguma Sociedade de Críticos pode postar reviews. We only accept reviews from critics of accredited media outlets and online film societies. If you're a critic, and are interested in getting your reviews quoted on Rotten Tomatoes, please click here for our criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 6, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 6, 2005 Também, Big. Nas nacionais, vou passar o olho. E não virão coisas boas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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