Members Salame Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Jett' date=' de leve novamente: "I know not everyone will dig it - even some Batman fans...." http://www.batman-on-film.com/b5news.html Ihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!! [/quote'] O cara tá enrolando demais já! Tomar no c*. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted June 5, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Katie Holmes no MTV Movie Awards... Big One38508.6985416667 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members O_Imperador Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 UUUHHHUUUUUUU!!!!!!!jett também achou viagem o que o panaca da variety falou!!!!!esse é dos meus!!!! f**kIN GREAT SPOILER COMING.....rsrsrsrs segundo toddisdead do shh que diz já ter visto' date=' a melhor cena de alucinação é do próprio crane visualizando BATMAN!!!!!sinistro... [/quote'] MERDA!! Eu li!! f**k! f**k! f**k! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 UUUHHHUUUUUUU!!!!!!!jett também achou viagem o que o panaca da variety falou!!!!!esse é dos meus!!!! f**kIN GREAT SPOILER COMING.....rsrsrsrs segundo toddisdead do shh que diz já ter visto' date=' a melhor cena de alucinação é do próprio crane visualizando BATMAN!!!!!sinistro... [/quote'] MERDA!! Eu li!! f**k! f**k! f**k! hahahahaha, sorry dude.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members O_Imperador Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 parece que saiu uma crítica mais detalhada do AICN . só que não tou conseguindo entrar!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Administrator Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Fundo verde NO MORE...chega de ver filmes q cenários não existem...quero um pouco de realidade pra variar... Big meu camarada... falou uma tremenda de uma besteira agora... Então vc acha que não filmaram nada em fundo verdo ou azul pra este Batman? E outra, o que ha de errado em se filmar em fundo verde? O que realmente importa é que o cenário pareça real. Ou que funcione. SW, apesar dos exageros provou isso. Sin City ou Capitão Sky tbm. Falou merda. E outra, numa coisa temos que ser justos: tecnicamente os filmes do Burton foram perfeitos: trilha sonora dispensa coments, a fotografia, a Gothan City surreal, o belíssimo batmovel, e a atmosfera fantasiosa. Sim, Batman ñ daria certo no mundo real (Begins chegará perto), ele só funciona num universo paralelo específico. Burton percebendo isso acertou na mosca no aspecto visual. Isso é irreprencível nos filmes de Burton. Uma pena que o roteiro seja tão precário e pouco fiel a fonte. As vezes me pergunto: já pensou o Burton e Elfman trabalhando com um roteiro do nível de Begins? Mas é obvio que já tiveram sua chance, deixemos eles pra trás. E que venha o pipoca do ano: Batman Begins!Darth Maul38508.7670023148 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members O_Imperador Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 E que venha o pipoca do ano: Batman Begins! Pipoca do ano maul? Imaginei que tu acharia que a pipoca do ano seria SW3!! O_Imperador38508.7704513889 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 falou o homem! e ai de quem discordar.... pobres infiéis.... vejamos...concordo que nem em tudo burton errou... concordo que de fato elfman teve sua chance... e que seja a primeira e última! concordo que fundo verde funciona, mas com limites, exatamente igual ao uso do cgi, mas aí já entra em outra questão e não to afim de escrever tanto agora... concordo que aquela gotham não é das piores, mas chega de surrealismo e fantasia. batmóvel do burton é cool? claaaaro...mas prefiro ele onde está hoje...no museu. o filme de burton acerta, "digamos" na parte técnica...que é a menos importante, e erra feeeeeeeio no que todo mundo mais espera de begins...conteúdo. se juntar o crítico da variety, os filmes do burton e o maul, o resultado é uma feijoada das "melhores"..... trilhões de moscas poderiam estar erradas???? eat sh*t!!!! adam_jones_138508.7835532407 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted June 5, 2005 Administrators Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Fundo verde NO MORE...chega de ver filmes q cenários não existem...quero um pouco de realidade pra variar... Big meu camarada... falou uma tremenda de uma besteira agora... Então vc acha que não filmaram nada em fundo verdo ou azul pra este Batman? E outra' date=' o que ha de errado em se filmar em fundo verde? O que realmente importa é que o cenário pareça real. Ou que funcione. SW, apesar dos exageros provou isso. Sin City ou Capitão Sky tbm. Falou merda. E outra, numa coisa temos que ser justos: tecnicamente os filmes do Burton foram perfeitos: trilha sonora dispensa coments, a fotografia, a Gothan City surreal, o belíssimo batmovel, e a atmosfera fantasiosa. Sim, Batman ñ daria certo no mundo real (Begins chegará perto), ele só funciona num universo paralelo específico. Burton percebendo isso acertou na mosca no aspecto visual. Isso é irreprencível nos filmes de Burton. Uma pena que o roteiro seja tão precário e pouco fiel a fonte. As vezes me pergunto: já pensou o Burton e Elfman trabalhando com um roteiro do nível de Begins? Mas é obvio que já tiveram sua chance, deixemos eles pra trás. E que venha o pipoca do ano: Batman Begins![/quote'] Há grande diferença entre parecer real e SER REAL...eh isso q BB faz...claro, q eu seria um tolo se eu achasse que o filme não tiver nenhuma cena em fundo verde. Existe outra grannnnde diferença entre um filme todo em fundo verde, contra outro que contém apenas algumas algumas cenas. Qual cena ficaria mais real ??? A cena do treinamento do Bruce no gelo filmado in loco, ou aquelas cenas filmadas em fundo verde, que são tão bonitas qto um jogo do Playstation 2...??? Adoro o Burton, eh um dos meus diretores preferidos, mas acho q ele não daria certo com o roteiro de BB pq Burton sempre iria levar mais pro lado da fantasia... Ueh?? O filme pipoca do ano não era SWIII ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LEospider Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 CARACAAAA,EU TO MT FELIZ VEIVCS NÃO SABEM O Q ACONTECEU!!!!Meu tio mora em São Paulo,e trabalha com coisas relacionadas a cinema,ele é critico,produtor,e outra coisa la q eu esqueci.Ai agora ele me ligou,dizendo q vai ter duas seçoes especias de pré-estréias de filmes,la em SP,nas quais ele foi convidado.Os filmes serão ''Até que as sogra nos separe" e .... Batman Begins.E o melhor num eh nem isso.é q ele tem direito de levar um convidado.advinha quem ele chamou velho...??? pqp to mt feliz doido,vou viajar de avião pela primeira vez para ver o filme q eu mais espero doido.puta merda.vai ser no proximo sabado.to mt ansioso velho.hahahahaflw ai[/quote'] cú pra lua é pouco hehehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Fundo verde NO MORE...chega de ver filmes q cenários não existem...quero um pouco de realidade pra variar... Big meu camarada... falou uma tremenda de uma besteira agora... Então vc acha que não filmaram nada em fundo verdo ou azul pra este Batman? E outra' date=' o que ha de errado em se filmar em fundo verde? O que realmente importa é que o cenário pareça real. Ou que funcione. SW, apesar dos exageros provou isso. Sin City ou Capitão Sky tbm. Falou merda. E outra, numa coisa temos que ser justos: tecnicamente os filmes do Burton foram perfeitos: trilha sonora dispensa coments, a fotografia, a Gothan City surreal, o belíssimo batmovel, e a atmosfera fantasiosa. Sim, Batman ñ daria certo no mundo real (Begins chegará perto), ele só funciona num universo paralelo específico. Burton percebendo isso acertou na mosca no aspecto visual. Isso é irreprencível nos filmes de Burton. Uma pena que o roteiro seja tão precário e pouco fiel a fonte. As vezes me pergunto: já pensou o Burton e Elfman trabalhando com um roteiro do nível de Begins? Mas é obvio que já tiveram sua chance, deixemos eles pra trás. E que venha o pipoca do ano: Batman Begins![/quote'] Há grande diferença entre parecer real e SER REAL...eh isso q BB faz...claro, q eu seria um tolo se eu achasse que o filme não tiver nenhuma cena em fundo verde. Existe outra grannnnde diferença entre um filme todo em fundo verde, contra outro que contém apenas algumas algumas cenas. Qual cena ficaria mais real ??? A cena do treinamento do Bruce no gelo filmado in loco, ou aquelas cenas filmadas em fundo verde, que são tão bonitas qto um jogo do Playstation 2...??? Adoro o Burton, eh um dos meus diretores preferidos, mas acho q ele não daria certo com o roteiro de BB pq Burton sempre iria levar mais pro lado da fantasia... Ueh?? O filme pipoca do ano não era SWIII ??? duvido muito que ele irá considerar teu argumento big, mas ainda assim, tá valendo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 <SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial' date='helvetica,sans-serif">CARACAAAA,EU TO MT FELIZ VEIVCS NÃO SABEM O Q ACONTECEU!!!!<SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Meu tio mora em São Paulo,e trabalha com coisas relacionadas a cinema,ele é critico,produtor,e outra coisa la q eu esqueci.Ai agora ele me ligou,dizendo q vai ter duas seçoes especias de pré-estréias de filmes,la em SP,nas quais ele foi convidado.Os filmes serão ''Até que as sogra nos separe" e .... Batman Begins.E o melhor num eh nem isso.é q ele tem direito de levar um convidado.advinha quem ele chamou velho...??? pqp to mt feliz doido,vou viajar de avião pela primeira vez para ver o filme q eu mais espero doido.puta merda.vai ser no proximo sabado.to mt ansioso velho.hahahahaflw ai</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></SPAN>[/quote'] cú pra lua é pouco hehehe ainda não to me acreditando até agora que ele teve mesmo essa sorte...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ueh?? O filme pipoca do ano não era SWIII ??? 4F tá com cara de que será um grande pipocão. Mas corn hypeado de longe, é o fim do caça-níquel maior da história do cinema. Fui almoçar no Rio Sul com as mulheres aqui (Rs..) e passamos na frente do Severiano Ribeiro. Já tinha uma filinha para comprar os ingresso. As pessoas estavam esperando a bilheteria abrir. E ao andar pelo shopping depois do almoço, vi uns 3 meninos fantasiados de Batman. felipef38508.8481481482 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Published on 2005-06-05 11:29:33 More reactions to BATMAN BEGINS! This is driving me Batty! Hey folks, Harry here... I see this tomorrow night... Moriarty has already seen it, but I believe his computer is being sacrificed to the pixel gods upon the pixel pyre. Mori hates his computer, they often times end up wrestling naked in front of his fireplace like Oliver Reed... and thus he loses pieces he's written for you to the great abyss. You'll find more folks losing their minds for this baby below... Enjoy... I just went to an IMAX screening of Batman Begins and… frickin’ wow. Wowy wow wow. This film easily trumps any live-action incarnation we’ve scene of the Dark Knight before, borrowing heavily from both the comics and the Dini and Co. animated series. This is a hard, fast, driving, heartfelt epic that draws you into the character of Bruce Wayne and makes you damn well care. Batman doesn’t play second-fiddle to the villains here like in the other films. It’s his movie and that’s the way it should be. Much has been said of the film’s “reality” quotient, and I’m here to say it works. Nolan talks about how Batman’s strong because he does push-ups, he gets around because of his gadgets, and by introducing each of them with a plausible explanation, we forget to quibble and go along with it. The technology may be fantastic, but it’s believable. And, unlike the “reality” of something like Daredevil, Nolan doesn’t forget his ideals halfway though and start having Batman wire-jump thirty feet into the air. The acting all around is top notch. Everyone in the film is quality and they really pull through in their respective roles. Personally, I love Cillian Murphy’s Scarecrow. He adds the slightest extra cadence to each syllable, turning the dialogue into something more than was written. As for the man himself, Christian Bale is far and away the best Batman ever. I was never conscious of watching a movie star take on Batman the way it was with the other films. You watch Bruce Wayne grow and transform and become Batman, and nothing gets between that. I really don’t want to spoil the best bits, just because you need to see them for yourself. But know that the film works, and on many levels. Three quick highlights: 1) Batman moves in flashes, just the way he should. He takes out one guy and disappears into shadows, leaving the others to collectively sh*t their pants. It is THAT cool. 2) The fear gas is very well done. You see the effects from multiple perspectives throughout, and none is better than when a certain someone sees the Batman while under the influence. 3) The hints at the end of what’s to come. SO good. I’ve been following the buzz poo-pooing that’s been going on down in TalkBack, where a few folks have read a draft of the script and have been doing their best to sandbag expectations. PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE HATERS BEHIND THE CURTAIN!! There are one-liners, yes, and just about all of them work fine because the words from the script are acted out and made plausible. A few aren’t as strong, but they’re not of the cringe-worthy variety. The suit works. It’s practical. It’s plausible. It’s the most “real” Batman we’re going to get. It’s not Sandy Collara’s Dead End (and I say thank God for that). There are a few moments when the mask doesn’t sit just right, but those are ridiculously insignificant nitpicks when the rest of the film works as well as it does. I’ve got three other nitpicks that really aren’t even problems: 1) Editing. Early in the film, during some of the flashback and training sequences, the editing of certain scenes feels a little clipped and truncated. My friend put it right saying it felt like you were watching an extended trailer for the scene as opposed to the scene itself. It works though—don’t get me wrong—as these scenes really propel the narrative forward. 2) Action scenes. Most of these scenes stay pretty close and tight, in medium shots instead of wides, rendering some of the action a giant blur (granted, the IMAX didn’t help that any). There were a few times I was wishing to see things pulled back and revealed a bit more. Again, it still works. 3) Score. It’s downright brilliant in parts. Only problem I had is there’s no instantly-recognizalbe, hummable main theme. Kinda the way it is with Spider-Man. You might think this is all hyperbole, but the movie is THAT good. I left the theater buzzing in a way I haven’t in a long time. I mean, Episode III was phenomenal, but leaving that was leaving satisfied in a different way. It was the end of something great and grand. It was completion. Batman Begins is the start of something new, and every step taken has been the right one. I absolutely cannot wait to see what they do next. Hot damn if this isn’t the best summer we’ve had in a long, long time. -MasterWhedon here's babyshoes with his brief reaction... hi harry, i just was one of the lucky few who attended wizard world philly and got to see a screening of batman begins. while i'm not going to give a full review with major details, i can say that the movie ABSOLUTELY BLEW ME AND MY TWO FRIENDS AWAY!!! personally, i can say it is the best comic book adaptation to date. there were some minor flaws like the car chase scenes, which were a tad unrealistic compared to the rest of the movie, and when the name of the "secret weapon" is used by the bad guy is said, there is a little cringefactor and some believability issues. But...overall, i was totally not expecting the movie to be this damn good. the villians are well-acted and not over-used and abused and batman is just downright scary and creepy in some scenes, the way he ought to be (emphasis on the scary). dc has really hit on something big here and i can't wait to see it again on the 15th! Call me babyshoes http://aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=20384 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Ueh?? O filme pipoca do ano não era SWIII ??? 4F tá com cara de que será um grande pipocão. Mas corn hypeado de longe' date=' é o fim do caça-níquel maior da história do cinema. Fui almoçar no Rio Sul com as mulheres aqui (Rs..) e passamos na frente do Severiano Ribeiro. Já tinha uma filinha para comprar os ingresso. As pessoas estavam esperando a bilheteria abrir. E ao andar pelo shopping depois do almoço, vi uns 3 meninos fantasiados de Batman. [/quote'] voce acha que o quarteto fantástico tá com essa bola toda???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 adam, vi o trailer ontem e o cheiro de blockteenbuster impestiou o cinema. Muita gente comentando. Bem mais que no trailer do Batman. Vai ser muito boa a bilheteria. Mas como disse, não chega perto do menino que faz biquinho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 adam' date=' vi o trailer ontem e o cheiro de blockteenbuster impestiou o cinema. Muita gente comentando. Bem mais que no trailer do Batman. Vai ser muito boa a bilheteria. Mas como disse, não chega perto do menino que faz biquinho.[/quote'] hahahahaha, boa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Foto de uma das premieres que me deixou feliz: Amanhã vou rever Último Samurai pela... Sei lá quantas vezes e o relacionamento do descobrimento de uma pura amizade das personagens desses respectivos aí. Crítica média: Batman BeginsB Christopher Nolan’s “Batman Begins” may be the most Freudian comic strip movie in Hollywood history. After hiatus of eight years, the popular “Batman” series returns with an overly psychologistic epic and an extremely elaborate plot that favors dialogue over action, tangled relationships over rousing set pieces, characterization over splashy visuals. “Batman Begins” explores the origins of the Batman legend and the Dark Knight’s emergence as a force for good. A character-driven adventure, it represents the first full telling of how Bruce Wayne becomes Batman, detailing how and why he acquires the manners, skills, and tools to create his intimidating alter ego.This “Batman” feels like the beginning of a new franchise rather than continuation of a popular film series that started in 1989 and has seen four pictures. For those viewers who complain that tent pole summer movies are too simplistic and special-effects driven, lacking plot and characterization, “Batman Begins” should prove to be the answer as a comic strip that relates and analyzes dozens of relationships among never less than complex characters. That theses characters are played by the most accomplished actors working in cinema today, including Liam Neeson, Michael Caine, Tom Wilkinson, Morgan Freeman, Gary Oldman, and Ken Watanabe, certainly elevates the film to another plateau. But these wonderful actors also expose the acting limitations and lack of strong charisma of lead hero Christian Bale, who now becomes the fourth Batman, following Michael Keaton in “Batman” (1989) and “Batman Returns” (1992), Val Kilmer in “Batman Forever” (1995), and George Clooney in Batman & Robin” (1997).It’s hard to think of another comic strip film that has more secondary characters than “Batman Begins,” or one that’s more concerned with grounding each subplot and element of the story (including the toys and costumes) in “realism.” Clearly, Nolan and co-writer David Goyer have gone out of their way to dissociate themselves from the previous movies. Compared with the first two Batman, directed with bravura and pizzazz by Tim Burton, “Batman Begins” lacks excitement. And compared with the last two, which were disappointing, this “Batman” focuses on its hero, who’s decently played by Christian Bale, and less on the colorful villains.Moreover, in other summer movie, past or present, the motif of father-son, or rather fathers-son (since Bruce Wayne has so many surrogate fathers who watch over him) has been so prevalent, dominating the whole production. Too verbose for young (and adult) viewers, this “Batman” lacks a strong romantic interest or erotic female presence; Kathy Holmes is the only woman in the film, but there is not much interaction between her and Bale. Bruce is haunted by the specter of his parents, gunned down before his eyes in the streets of Gotham on a night that changed his life forever. Tormented by guilt and anger, battling the demons that feed his desire for revenge and his need to honor his parents’ altruistic legacy, the disillusioned industrial heir vanishes from Gotham and secretly travels the world, seeking the means to fight injustice and turn fear against those who prey on the fearful.Nolan’s taut and provocative psychological thrillers (“Memento,” “Insomnia”) have established him as a new talent with a keen sense of character and a remarkably assured directing style. Not surprisingly, given that Nolan’s films are imbued with noir sensibility and visuals, “Batman Begins” is dark, violent, and decidedly less campy and humorous than the previous Batmans. “Batman Begins” is film noir par excellence, with all the motifs that define this genre: guilt, pain, loss, impact of the past on the presence, and so on. I would be unfair to claim that Nolan has drained the fun out of the beloved series, but he has certainly changed its nature, structure, and meaning.To portray the full arc of Bruce’s story in a realistic manner, Nolan explores the complex psychology of the man behind the myth. He’s trying to get inside Bruce’s head and go on that journey with him, experiencing the process of becoming Batman through his own eyes. Since there isn’t one definitive account of Batman’s origins, the filmmakers take considerable liberty with characters and motivations. The existence of gaps in the mythology allows them to interpret freely key events and bring in their own ideas of how Bruce and Batman have evolved. In recounting Bruce’s odyssey from his traumatic childhood to his emergence as Batman, Nolan presents a more realistic take on his story than any seen in previous incarnations. However, his goal to make a popcorn film with gravity and epic scope, firmly grounded in reality, is only half-met.Conceptually, Nolan thinks of “Batman Begins” as an epic-adventure in the vein of “Lawrence of Arabia,” “The Man Who Would Be King, “Blade Runner,” and “James Bond, rather than “Spider-Man” or “The Hulk.” Nolan’s psychologistic-realistic philosophy is applied to every aspect of the story. For better or worse) I think for worse), “Batman Begins” offers a logical explanation for everything that Bruce does and for every device he acquires, including the Batmobile. Whenever a new gadget or tool is introduced, viewers are treated to lengthy exposition of its history, use and abuse, status of production, etc. The plot is extremely complicated for such a fare. In his quest for education in the criminal ways, Bruce is mentored by a mysterious man named Ducard (Neeson). Ducard imparts the mastery of the physical and mental disciplines that empower Bruce to fight evil. Bruce soon finds himself the target of recruiting efforts by the League of Shadows, a subversive vigilante group, headed by enigmatic leader Ra’s al Ghul (Watanebe)Bruce returns to Gotham to find the city devoured by rampant crime and corruption. Wayne Enterprises, his family’s former bastion of philanthropic business ideals, now rests in the hands of CEO Richard Earle (Rutger Hauer), who’s more concerned with taking the company public than serving the public good.Bruce’s childhood friend Rachel Dawes (Katie Holmes), now an Assistant District Attorney, can’t convict the city’s notorious criminals, because the justice system is deeply polluted by crime bosses like Carmine Falcone (Tom Wilkinson). It doesn’t help that prominent Gotham psychiatrist Dr. Jonathan Crane (Cillian Murphy) bolsters insanity defenses for Falcone’s thugs in exchange for nefarious favors that serve his own devious agenda. With the help of his trusted butler Alfred (Michael Caine), detective Jim Gordon (Gary Oldman), one of the few good cops on the Gotham police, and Lucius Fox (Morgan Freeman), his ally at the Wayne Enterprises’ Applied Sciences division, Bruce unleashes his alter-ego: Batman, a masked crusader who uses strength, intellect and high-tech weaponry to fight the sinister forces that destroy the city.Created for DC Comics by artist Bob Kane, Batman made his debut in Detective Comics #27 (May, 1939 issue). The superhero’s 66-year history represents an unprecedented cultural phenomenon that has spanned radio serials, live action, and animated TV series, feature films, interactive games, and legions of comic books. Mysterious and menacing, “The Bat-Man” surfaced as Gotham’s self-appointed guardian, a winged gargoyle living in the shadows between hero and vigilante. In the six decades since, he has come to be known as the Dark Knight, a complex man who transformed himself through sheer force of will into a symbol of hope and justice for a city rotting with corruption and decay.Batman is one of the most psychologically interesting characters in American culture. Unlike such iconic characters as Spider-Man, Superman, Wonder Woman and the Sandman, Batman isn’t a guy who finds himself endowed with superpowers and is determined to do good. No, Bruce is a man who after watching his parents die experienced a deep moral and personal crisis. Tortured by guilt and anger and motivated by vengeance, he sets out to transform himself and change the world. Batman is a hero driven by negative impulses, a flawed hero, who has taken his self-destructive emotions and made something positive from them. Batman’s ambitious quest to forge his mind and body into a living weapon against injustice inspires both fear and admiration. What distinguishes Batman from his counterparts is that he’s become a hero through hard work and even harder training. In the first scenes of this telling, Thomas Wayne instills in his young son a sense of philanthropy and love for the city that has benefited from the altruism of its wealthiest family, laying a foundation for Bruce’s ideals of justice. Bruce’s belief system is shattered when his parents are gunned down before him; they’re victims of the fear and desperation spawned by Gotham’s rampant crime and collapsing economy. Blaming himself for their murders, and consumed by guilt and pain, Bruce begins a lifelong struggle to reconcile his rage and thirst for vengeance with his need to honor his parents’ legacy.Since everything is ripped away from him in a second, Bruce has to deal with intense guilt, anger, loneliness and confusion. Pained by what had happened, he leaves Gotham in search of answers on a never-ending journey. Battling with himself internally, he must continually assess his actions and control his demons, overcoming the pull toward self-destruction.A complex character that exists on the razor’s edge between good and bad, Batman embodies the danger and ambiguity that can be channeled into something positive and powerful. He has a kind of intensity, a fire burning inside. The film’s point is that Bruce is an ordinary man who has made himself extraordinary through determination and self-discipline.Nolan and Goyer are too concerned with grounding Bruce’s story in a recognizable reality, mixing milestones in the mythology with their own interpretation of events is through the theme of fear. Indeed, the power of fear, in both its negative and positive manifestations, becomes the film’s dominant motif, one that may strike relevance for contempo audiences. One of the film’s key incidents is early on, when young Bruce accidentally discovers bat-filled caverns beneath Wayne Manor, which results in a harrowing encounter with the terrifying creatures, leaving him permanently haunted by the memory. Nolan fuses this seminal experience with Bruce’s subsequent guilt over his parents’ deaths, making his decision to remold himself in the image of a creature that wracks him with fear and anxiety all the more remarkable and resonant. This is also one of the film’s most intriguing ideas: A hero who must confront his innermost fear, and then attempts to become it. The bat is a personal symbol, one that induced fear in Bruce as a child, and as an adult is a constant reminder of the night his parents were murdered and of his own guilt. When he returns to Gotham after honing his mental and physical skills, the bat persona becomes the answer to his need for a disguise. Bruce uses it as a means to intimidate and manipulate other people’s fears, as well as master his own fear.While superheroes typically face the challenge of living as both a public personality and a private force, Bruce presents not one but two different personas in public while carefully guarding his true private identity. It’s not just a duality between Batman and Bruce, but a presentation of three distinct facets of Bruce’s character: Batman, the iconic masked warrior who is the channel of Bruce’s inner rage; the private Bruce, a damaged man who dedicates his life to ridding Gotham of the evil that took his parents’ lives; and the third individual, the public face of Bruce, a spoiled womanizer playboy, the last person anyone in Gotham would suspect of caring about the city’s decline, let alone of being Batman. http://www.emanuellevy.com/article.php?articleID=253 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 velho tem um tal de lord carter lá no shh, um ser abençoado que já conseguiu ver o filme, e o melhor, em imax, cara ele diz cada coisa velho.... pra dar um gostinho..... ULTRA-MEGA-SUPER-f**kIN-ESTUPIDITY-DON´T LOOK UNDER ANY CIRCUNSTANCES-SPOILER!!!!!!! as cenas de luta corpo a corpo foram feitas com edição rápida para destacar a ferocidade de batman, ele age de maneira extremamente veloz para por seus oponentes a nocaute o mais rápido, e sim, de fato, lembra supremacia bourne, porém melhorado. f**kING AWESOME DUDE!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Eu tenho nóia de edição. Todo tipo de. Vamos ver como vai ficar. Só vendo mesmo. Teve um outro por lá que não gostou dessa forma brusca. felipef38508.8783796296 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members adam_jones_1 Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 ORRA, VAI PRA PUTA QUE O PARIU CRÍTICO FILHO DE UMA ÉGUA AIDÉTICA!!!!!!!!!!! CHAMAR CHRISTIAN BALE DE ATOR LIMITADO E COM FALTA DE CARISMA??????????????? adam_jones_138508.880787037 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Cara. É a opinião dele. Tente não importância para as pessoas que não pensam igual a você. Relax adam... felipef38508.9139467593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 "Quote: Originally Posted by TheBatboy Lord, in the scene in the docks where a guy screams "Where are you?!" and Batman says "here" behind him. What does Batman do to the guy? You don't see." felipef38508.8965509259 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members felipef Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 O Barney do SHH é genial: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Salame Posted June 5, 2005 Members Report Share Posted June 5, 2005 Cara. É a opinião dele. Tente não ligar para as pessoas que não pensam igual a você. Relax adam... Perfeito, é a opinião dele. Mas que nós podemos achá-lo um bosta por causa dessa opinião dele, podemos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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