Members Perucatorta Posted May 13, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Gente, fodam-se os críticos... Dane-se se não for sucesso comercial. Curtir cinema é um lance meio egoísta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cell Posted May 13, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Primeira vez que vou ver um filme do Indy no cinema, Fuck-se se o filme for ruim. Quero só ouvir a "Riders March" e derramar uma singela lagrima. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazy Posted May 13, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Percebe-se com isso a importancia' date=' o peso e a paixao por muitos em cima do ícone Indiana Jones....possivelmente muitos criticos deixarao a crianca dentro de si falar mais alto na hora de resenhar sobre o filme...[/quote'] Eu já acho que vai acontecer exatamente o contrário. é apenas uma suposição....como todas que andam cercando o filme....mas elas têm data para acabar... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazy Posted May 13, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 Gente' date=' fodam-se os críticos...Dane-se se não for sucesso comercial.Curtir cinema é um lance meio egoísta.[/quote'] é verdade...é como música...tem gente que gosta de RBD...Transformers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonytt Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 O mesmo site aintcool news postou outra critica extremamente positiva(e aparentemente mais coerente) mas dessa critica os "abutres" de plantão nao falaram nada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rod Keys Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Segundo o The Raider.net, John Hurt não irá [SPOILER]: interpretar Abner Ravenwood, e sim um velho colega de Indy da época em que ambos eram estudantes de arqueologia e foram alunos do pai de Marion. Seu nome é Prof. OxleyRod Keys2008-05-14 12:45:50 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Administrator Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Está sendo divulgado o resultado do costumeiro tracking que fazem para avaliar como há de ser a bilheteria de estréia de filmes. E, para Indy IV, a projeção é astronômica - o cara aí embaixo suspeita que poderá quebrar o recorde de abertura em 5 dias, cujo titular ainda é Episódio III. Steve Mason is predicting that Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull will make $162 - $172 Million in it’s first five days of release domestically. It opens on Thursday' date=' May 22 at Midnight (Wednesday night), so this will make for a huge opening day, which I am projecting in the $41M-$44M range (that includes Wednesday night after midnight screenings). Then Friday should be $32M-$34M, Saturday will likely tick up to $34M-$36M and the Sunday leading into the holiday will be on par with Friday. With a Memorial Day Monday of $22M-$24M, I am calling for a 5-day gross in the $162M-$172M range. Jones may come close to breaking the highest 5-day opening gross record, which is currently held by Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith with $172.8 million. [/quote'] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cidraman Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Indy em Cannes: http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-13-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-29-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-28-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-27-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-23-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-24-1.jpg http://www.joblo.com/newsimages1/cannes-2008-20-1.jpg Se os links acima não funcionarem, copiem e colem na barra de endereços do navegador.cidra2008-05-14 13:00:09 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted May 14, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Animal as fotos... Acho que a previsão vai acertar, será um megablockbuster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucas Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Segundo o The Raider.net' date=' John Hurt não irá [SPOILER']: interpretar Abner Ravenwood, e sim um velho colega de Indy da época em que ambos eram estudantes de arqueologia e foram alunos do pai de Marion. Seu nome é Prof. Oxley Sim... isso é o oficial, John Hurt é o Professor Oxley. Mas como eles negam até agora que Indy é pai de Mutt (um segredo tão secreto quanto a identidade do Morcego Verde), a desconfiança ainda é livre... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lucas Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Sobre as "críticas"... se não me deixei me levar pelas críticas positivas de Vingança dos Sith antes de ver o filme... o mesmo continuará valendo para qualquer outro. No momento tenho um feeling positivo sobre o filme, mas é na telona que tudo se desvelará... mal posso esperar... Lucas2008-05-14 15:08:27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tonytt Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Parece que ja teremos sessoes no dia 21,de acordo com o site do cinemark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazy Posted May 14, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 em uma tradução livre dos artigos escritos no ain't it cool news, um dos felizardos que já tiveram a oportunidade de ver o filme confirma mutt como filho de indiana jones....mas vai saber...e mais, ele relaciona seus preferidos na ordem: 1º Arca Perdida 2º Templo da Perdição 3º Caveira de Cristal 4º Última Cruzada mas é claro...é uma opinião de gosto pessoal do autor...crazy2008-05-14 21:36:44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sync Posted May 15, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Só mesmo Indiana Jones para me fazer aparecer no fórum durante a minha tradicional e anual desencanada do fórum (todo ano quando passa o Oscar eu fico uns 5 mêses sem dar as caras aqui). Tou com um pouco de medo desse filme. Sei lá...medo de ser ruim, de ser um fracasso, de eu não gostar, do público não gostar.... Tomara que seja um enooorme sucesso nas bilheterias e que seja um filme ÓTIMO. Aprendi a confiar no Spielberg durante todos esses anos, mas mesmo assim eu estou com um pé atrás em relação a esse filme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dook Posted May 15, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Você tem que estar preocupado de VOCÊ não gostar... Esqueça os outros... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members crazy Posted May 15, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 O filme ainda nem estreou e a Paramount anuncia que ja esta trabalhando no DVD do Reino da Caveira de Cristal. Anuncia tambem que lancara um box com a quadrilogia mas nao se sabe se, assim como o box existente, tambem vira um DVD apenas com os extras. Falando nisso o site IESB.net disponibilizou 15 minutos dos bastidores das filmagens, material esse que provavelmente fara parte dos extras do DVD que devera ser lancado em outubro ou novembro. http://www.iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4872&Itemid=99crazy2008-05-15 10:29:17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Sync Posted May 15, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Você tem que estar preocupado de VOCÊ não gostar... Esqueça os outros... Mas o meu maior "medo" é esse: que nem eu goste. Sync2008-05-15 15:51:04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Administrator Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 MovieBlog.com pergunta-nos: Has Paramount Botched The Indiana Jones 4 Marketing? But hold the phone. If you were 25 or younger… never having seen the original Indiana Jones trilogy (and there are a lot of you out there… you don’t know what you’re missing) and all you had to go by was the marketing for Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull that Paramount has been putting out… you’d think that just another action/adventure summer film was opening on the 22nd. Just another movie. Just another film. Because when I see all the marketing for Indiana Jones 4' date=' I get no sense of it being an event, no sense of history, no sense of significance… no sense that we are seeing the return of the greatest adventurer of all time. All I’d be seeing is a bunch of trailers for an adventure movie staring an old guy with a hat. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying the trailers for Indiana Jones 4 have been “bad”. I’ve actually liked them. But all they’ve done is to show me that they’ve got a new movie coming out amongst 40+ other movies also coming out this summer. I remember when Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith was getting ready to come out. Not only were the trailers amazing… the marketing for that movie was very specifically geared towards giving the public a sense of an event. WE WERE ABOUT TO SEE THE BIRTH OF DARTH VADER! That was the message in almost everything from trailers to poster to commercials to cereal boxes. It wasn’t just the MOVIE being promoted…. it was the EVENT that was being celebrated and we (as movie goers) didn’t feel like we were being pitched too…. we felt like we were being given personal invitations to attend the event! Sure the movie itself may have disappointed a lot of people, but before it opened, it was marketed as an event that shouldn’t be missed (and with $850 million world wide at the box office, not many people missed it). With Indiana Jones 4, it shouldn’t have been any different. This should have been an event! The marketing for this film should have focused a lot more on the history, the cultural relevance, the legend and the legacy of Indiana Jones and the celebration of his triumphant return! Instead, we’ve got the marketing for just another (although good looking) action movie with Cate Blanchett sporting a Russian accent. So what has the marketing department at Paramount done wrong here? I think a couple of things: 1) I think (please be clear that this is my own speculation) Paramount presumed that EVERYONE was lining up and dying to see Indiana Jones 4 regardless of how well or poor the marketing was. They could be forgiven for believing that to a degree since it’s true for many people. But that thinking fails to recognize just how many in the movie going audience have never seen Indiana Jones in action before. It doesn’t take into account those who have, but are now disillusioned with George Lucas after the failings of the most recent Star Wars trilogy. As a political analogy, it’s almost like Paramount thought EVERYONE was going to vote for them in the election anyway, so they didn’t campaign properly…. I think they’re going to discover that was a mistake. 2) They failed to address how today’s audience may have a hard time with an action star that is 66 years old. Marketing Indiana Jones as “just another action film” in a summer FILLED with great looking action films leaves the age thing open to being a problem. I’ve heard a lot of people 25 or under reference this very fact. Marketing Indiana Jones as a classic, an institution, a legend would have done a lot to counteract that. Indiana Jones is immortal, a character that defies time… it isn’t the PERSON of Indiana Jones you’re going to see… it’s the LEGEND. Age suddenly becomes a non-factor. 3) Forget Cate and Shia, everything should be focused on Indy. Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE Cate Blanchett and I really like Shia LaBeouf… but I think even casting them in this film was a mistake. The more you bring other big names and big stars into the mix, Indiana Jones 4 becomes more and more “just another action movie”. Anything that takes the focus off Indy (other than a great villain) weakens the “event” feel of the movie in my opinion. Big stars and big names are GREAT in almost any other summer blockbuster… but Indiana Jones should be putting as much of the spotlight on Indiana Jones as possible to highlight the uniqueness of the film as an INDIANA JONES film and not “just another action film”. The marketing should have been keeping that in mind. There was a time not long ago (just weeks ago really) that I was 100% convinced that Indiana Jones 4 would be the #1 box office movie of 2008. However, I also believed at that time that Paramount would start promoting Indy 4 as the cultural event that it should be instead of just putting in a half assed effort and making it look like just another action film. Now I’m not so sure. I’d still probably bet on it ending up as #1, but my 100% conviction on the matter has dwindled to about 70% certainty. Now keep in mind, I still think Indiana Jones will be a great movie. This post isn’t about how good or bad i think the movie itself will be… just on how I think the marketing has been mismanaged. So what do you think? Has Paramount botched the Indiana Jones 4 marketing, do you think it’s been perfect as it is or do you think it’s somewhere in between? Leave your thoughts in the comments. [/quote'] Gusmão_Raimundo2008-05-16 12:29:56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiryu Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 em uma tradução livre dos artigos escritos no ain't it cool news' date=' um dos felizardos que já tiveram a oportunidade de ver o filme confirma mutt como filho de indiana jones....mas vai saber...e mais, ele relaciona seus preferidos na ordem: 1º Arca Perdida 2º Templo da Perdição 3º Caveira de Cristal 4º Última Cruzada mas é claro...é uma opinião de gosto pessoal do autor...[/quote'] Esse já está desconsiderado. Colocar O Templo da Perdição acima de Última Cruzada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiryu Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Esqueçam a pergunta que eu acabei de fazer. Shiryu2008-05-16 14:08:58 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Eu coloco O Templo acima dos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shiryu Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 My God... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Mas tem fundamento... aquele início que ele é envenenado é sensacional... a cena dos insetos e perseguição nos carrinhos nas minas... foram mais empolgantes.. mas os outros dois são excelentes também.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Big One Posted May 16, 2008 Administrators Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 MovieBlog.com pergunta-nos: Has Paramount Botched The Indiana Jones 4 Marketing? Não sei, ele aponta algumas supostas falhas no marketing do Indy na opinião dele, principalmente com relação ao mkt para o público "pós-Matrix", de certa forma concordo, sabendo que o filme estréia daqui a uma semana, poderia ter um pouco mais de buzz por aí. Mas discordo da comparação com marketing do "SWIII - A Vingança do Sith", onde ele diz que foi um evento, e foi mesmo, um puta mkt, mas não podemos esquecer que o SWIII teve a vantagem de ter a "SWI - Ameaça Fantasma" e a "SWII - Guerra do Clones" num espaço de dois ou 3 anos preparando o público para o grand finale, o nascimento de uma dos maiores vilões do cinema, Darh Vader. Já Indy tem um gap aí de 19 anos desde a "Última Cruzada", portanto a comparção é descabida porque SWIII veio sendimentado em filmes recentes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Thiago Lucio Posted May 16, 2008 Members Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 TOP INDIANA: O TEMPLO DA PERDIÇÃO - 8,5/10 OS CAÇADORES DA ARCA PERDIDA - 8/10 A ÚLTIMA CRUZADA - 7,5/10 Vi em algum lugar que haverá pré-estréias do filme no dia 21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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